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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @08:57AM (#24836742)
Chip is probably one of the few spaces, where oligopoly or duopoly makes sense ( though it is still scary ). The entry barriers are not artificial. It is genuinely hard to start from the ground up just based on the level of progress made thus far.

With Google that argument is harder. A person could whip up G level search engine, mail, and maybe even youtube equivalent, but moving all those people ( but to make them consider your alternative would be impossibly painful to do ).

I will admit that NVidia and ARM scares me, but I am not sure what can be done here.

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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by gipp on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:28AM (#24838466)
> A person could whip up G level search engine, mail, and maybe even youtube equivalent

Hi Dunning, meet Kruger.

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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by Jugurtha on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:32AM (#24838530)
The "This could be built in a week-end" and "Why don't you just [something that only 1/1000 can do and takes so much time]".

See also: https://blog.codinghorror.com/code-its-trivial

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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:21PM (#24839206)
Listen. I know people have a tendency to get defensive, when they believe someone insults their craft. I am not doing that. I am arguing that what google has really going for it is inertia. It is similar to the world of OS, where Windows still rules supreme. Note that DDG was built fast, but it struggles against G search engine based on familiarity. But ok, DDG has issues other than familiarity. What about Bing? MS had to actually pay people to encourage adoption. That is how strong the force of inertia really is. So yeah. I do dismiss your counter argument, because it does not address the core of mine.
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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by Jugurtha on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:38PM (#24839449)
I'm not being defensive and it was not my intention. I did not communicate that clearly.

Not going to dismiss the inertia parameter, but neither DDG nor Bing ever returned what I was looking for and they never were as good as Google Search for my particular searches (yes, even in private navigation). I'm not saying they're not good, I'm saying they never returned good results for me.

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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:52PM (#24839626)
I can offer some anecdata. For some reason or another, Bing is better than Google for finding otherwise copyrighted work ( I was able to find Morty streams after new season came out ). My personal pet theory is that since Google was first to the game with majority market share, copyright holders and the like concentrated their effort on it. Needless to say, it is just one person's experience. I will admit that DDG still lacks in that area, but it has improved.
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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by GoblinSlayer on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @01:28PM (#24840094)
>It is similar to the world of OS, where Windows still rules supreme.

That's because of drivers, and drivers are because of stable kernel API.

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Re:U.S. Accuses Google of Illegally Protecting Monopoly by opnitro on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @09:41AM (#24837160)
Regulation and/or state ownership?
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