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Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by patrec on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:15AM (#24835324)
Well, for storage (and thus offline) purposes it is of course exactly a zero sum game. I for one would really like a say 3 GiB version of English Wikipedia without Pokemon and Porn, or a 33GiB version with useful images.

However broad and non-deltionist might be best for online Wikepedia, a more curated i.e. deletionist version would certainly be very useful for offline usage and quite a few other purposes.

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by exDM69 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:52AM (#24835540)
> I for one would really like a say 3 GiB version of English Wikipedia without Pokemon and Porn, or a 33GiB version with useful images.

There are several offline snapshots of different sizes of Wikipedia that do exactly this. Some of them are more thoroughly curated, others are a snapshot of the most popular articles, etc.

What I could not find easily was a full English Wikipedia with images and all available in an easily accessible format (like the Kiwix snapshots). I'd put a whole hard disk for this purpose, because the size is in the gigabyte-terabyte range.

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by asah on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @06:32AM (#24835802)
Some relevant links:

100,000 curated pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level...

In terms of space, the text is over 1000x smaller than the multimedia: ~20GB (uncompressed) for the text vs ~45TB (compressed) for multimedia (est accounting for growth vs 23TB@2014).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by patrec on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @07:48AM (#24836258)
I am aware that there are various offline wikipedia compilations and I am grateful they exist and to the people who work on them, but last I looked using them looked like a bit of pain, and on checking again that still appears to be the case. I get the impression that if I want to have something of decent quality that fits into the 10s of GiB range I'd consider reasonable¹, I'd have to manually munge together several non-Pokemon topics I consider important plus one of the text only dumps. This would be more palatable if I had a strong impression that once I hit upon a working process I could rinse-and-repeat on a yearly basis.

Do you have any experience with this?

¹E.g. the 100k top article page linked by sibling does not look super promising, ~700 math articles vs ~10k fluff (sports, entertainment etc.).

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by exDM69 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @08:45AM (#24836635)
I have the ~80GB "full english" snapshot I grabbed some time ago and use with Kiwix. It's not quite "full", it doesn't have quite all images and video, etc. But the size is still reasonable for a desktop/laptop PC.

I also have a 10GB snapshot on my phone, but it's a bit lacking. I don't have enough storage on my phone to fit the bigger one. But a battery powered offline Wikipedia is high on my list of necessary things in case things go south.

I haven't found a great way to keep these synced up, glad to hear if someone has a good solution for up-to-date offline wikipedia.

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by monort on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @06:44AM (#24835873)
What's wrong with kiwix snapshot of English wikipedia? It's only 93GB.

http://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia/wikipedia_en_all_max...

Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by patrec on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @09:28AM (#24836996)
Well, I was hoping for less than 93GiB compressed, given that this exceeds the storage capacity of several devices I'd like to use it on and I'd estimate the total amount of info I care about to be far smaller than that. And small is beautiful: if everything fits into ram, you can do various interesting data munging tasks on the data (which is after all not uninteresting) very quickly.
Re:I miss Microsoft Encarta (2019) by swiley on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @07:50AM (#24836265)
Meh. Even my phone can store the entire text of English Wikipedia and still have half the storage left over for sloppy OS and App code.