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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by FranzFerdiNaN on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @01:47AM (#24834260)
Free speech as how some people like to define it now (anything can and should be said) was never an ideal, and certainly never reality.

It’s funny how the people complaining about “cancel culture” (usually a roundabout way of complaining you can’t say racist things anymore) are completely fine with twisting especially history to benefit themselves.

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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by StavrosK on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @03:57AM (#24834889)
> usually a roundabout way of complaining you can’t say racist things anymore

As an external observer, this seems to me exactly the problem. Discourse is so polarized, that nobody can say "this thing that started as a reaction to overt racism has gone too far" without people replying "that just means you're racist".

The situation has come to where there are ridiculous abuses going on, and criticizing them is anathema because the initial purpose of the system being abused was to counter a bias.

Hell, even writing this comment, meta-analyzing the situation, I'm semi-afraid will have personal impact to me, which is pretty indicative of the problem.

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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by krageon on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @04:16AM (#24834996)
> Discourse is so polarized, that nobody can say

A large part of it is signaling through terminology. If you use terms such as "cancel culture" and "liberals", it's pretty clear you're either a right-wing US citizen or someone who wishes they were one.

There are definitely people that are able to discuss certain social trends becoming a problem without using dogmatic terminology, which is where the conversation becomes interesting for all participants. As opposed to a horrifying journey plumbing the depths of polarised discourse.

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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by username90 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:49AM (#24835517)
American liberals runs the social networks almost everyone uses so whenever they decide to cancel stuff the whole world gets affected. Therefore it makes sense that many people all over the world learns to hate them and their cancel culture.
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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by StavrosK on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @04:42AM (#24835142)
> If you use terms such as "cancel culture" and "liberals", it's pretty clear you're either a right-wing US citizen or someone who wishes they were one.

So you can't say "cancel culture has gone too far" without signaling you're right-wing? I'm not up to speed with the exact politics, but I've heard the term in non-right wing contexts.

Seems to me like that would make it impossible to talk about things, which is what I'm seeing. How would you talk about Twitter canceling people without using the term "cancel culture?

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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by ryandrake on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:17AM (#24838308)
Am I the only person who found it ironic and meta that, in a thread about canceling people based on certain words and phrases, OP kind of tried to "cancel" your argument based on your use of the phrase "cancel culture". We are deep into the recursion now.
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Re:When You Get into Unschooling, It’s Almost Like a Religion by StavrosK on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:20AM (#24838362)
Well that's kind of the issue, right? There are some things you can't talk about because if you want to talk about them, it means you're a racist that just wants to legitimize racism.

Judging by the number of downvotes on a comment about this very thing, I'm not optimistic.

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