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Re:Beginner's Guide to Arguing Constructively by hn_throwaway_99 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:58AM (#24834056)
I totally agree with what you've written, with perhaps one small clarification/caveat/nuance. A mistake I've made in the past was to think about "controlling" emotions, as if emotions and logic were mutually exclusive, opposing forces. For example, take your excellent example about how a maladjusted fear response can make you afraid of things that aren't actually dangerous. The solution to this problem is not to try to "control" the fear, e.g. by telling yourself "there is nothing logically to be afraid of". The solution is actually to experience more of that fear - in a controlled, gradual and safe manner, which is what exposure therapy is all about.

Again, I'm not saying that this is what you meant by "controlling" or "moderating" emotions, but just want to clarify that learning how to express emotions in a constructive way usually makes an argument that much more forceful that trying to "rein in" your emotions and make them subservient to logic.

Re:Beginner's Guide to Arguing Constructively by adrianmonk on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @01:39PM (#24840214)
Yeah, that's a valuable point. I described it as controlling, which may sound like suppression, but I probably should have said something else like managing.

Even if you call it managing, it's too easy to see emotions as something with a volume knob you can just turn down whenever you like. But it's more complicated than that. They're basically hardwired into our brains. Some people's brains are wired differently, but even in a completely normal brain (if such a thing exists), there are systems that kick in and do stuff whether you want them to or not. As in parts of the brain that activate and shift gears for other parts of the brain.

So there are some things you can control but also some things you cannot control. Which means to manage them, sometimes you need to understand how the system works and the kinds of changes you can make. It's a bit like fixing a complicated bug: you can't just comment out the code that is doing whatever you don't like. You need to understand the whole system so you can make the right change in the right place.

I think your fear example is a good illustration of this. Experts have figured out how the system works, and they know where a change can be made, and that's exposure.

Re:Beginner's Guide to Arguing Constructively by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @01:36AM (#24834212)
I agree with the you in the general sense here, and want to point out that, in my opinion / experience, this:

> The solution is actually to experience more of that fear - in a controlled, gradual and safe manner, which is what exposure therapy is all about.

is true for some of the people some of the time. There is a wide range of approaches that will work for some and not for others, in various circumstances.

Re:Beginner's Guide to Arguing Constructively by iovrthoughtthis on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @03:17AM (#24834658)
I’ve started to think of it more of attuning to my emotions rather than controlling them.