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Re:How Discord Won by ryankrage77 on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:27PM (#24830622)
I actually switched away from Discord to Mumble, for higher audio quality & lower latency.
Re:How Discord Won by Sohcahtoa82 on Monday October 19, 2020 @07:33PM (#24832277)
Funny thing is, I've seen a lot of people complain about Mumble's audio quality.

But I think the reason Mumble has a reputation for poor audio quality is a lot of cheap Mumble server providers. With Mumble, the maximum audio bitrate is set by the server, and many servers set it low to save money on bandwidth, which sometimes ends up being as low as telephone quality. I used to run a Mumble server and had the bitrate set to maximum (I think 128 kbit/sec?), which is absolute overkill for simple voice communications, but it's not like a single server uses much bandwidth. I ran it on a Raspberry Pi for a couple years.

As for latency, not sure how low you expect latency to be. I haven't measured Discord's latency, but I can't imagine it being much more than 100 ms.

Re:How Discord Won by ryankrage77 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:14AM (#24835315)
Mumble maxes out at 96kbps + overhead (which brings it close to 128kbps total) (enforced client-side, though the server can set a lower bandwidth), and I find it's a noticeable difference over Discords 64/kbps.

Hosting on a cheap VPS in the same country as me, I get 20ms latency, which again is a noticeable difference (the average person can detect latency over 50ms, for example, audio and video can be out of sync by 30ms and it's pretty much undetectable during playback).

Re:How Discord Won by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:40AM (#24835459)
> Hosting on a cheap VPS in the same country as me, I get 20ms latency,

The USA is around 2,500 miles wide (+/- 200 miles depending on latitude), which is around 4000 km. If you live on the west coast and connect to a server on the east coast, you're looking at 50 ms minimum based on laws of physics alone. Real world latency is usually 60-70 ms.

Of course, that's a worst case scenario of connecting between the coasts. Honestly I don't know what Discord's voice latency is. I suppose I could measure it, but it's already low enough to be good.

Besides, it's a voice chat service. Even if latency was a ridiculous 200 ms, how would you even notice, other than when you hear your own voice coming from someone else's microphone?

Re:How Discord Won by erk__ on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @07:03AM (#24835991)
Should note that discord defaults to 64kb/s but goes up to 96kb/s for free, it is just a slider in the voice channel settings. and then depending on the "Boost" level of the server you can go up to 128/256/384 kb/s.
Re:How Discord Won by nolangerner on Monday October 19, 2020 @08:19PM (#24832591)
People treat me like I'm crazy when I say I like the audio quality/ latency on Teamspeak more but in my experience it's been day and night.
Re:How Discord Won by Armisael16 on Monday October 19, 2020 @07:11PM (#24832094)
Don’t they both use Opus? I use both regularly and the audio is identical to my ears (as opposed to pretty much everything else).