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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by mullingitover on Monday October 19, 2020 @02:29PM (#24829338)
They weren't able to prove collusion directly (and listed repeated efforts by the administration to obstruct justice), but they found that Russia helped the Trump campaign proactively and they welcomed the foreign assistance[1].

So the Trump campaign welcomed the Russian election interference, of which there was a breathtaking amount[2]. It's also telling that Trump, who never has spared an unkind word for anyone, has never spoken ill of Russia for his entire term.

It's also worth noting that the special counsel was never allowed to indict the President, or even say that indictable conduct occurred, due to Justice Department policy. The absolute strongest available language that they could use was that their report didn't exonerate the President, and that's exactly what the report said.

[1] https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mueller-report-tr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russian_interferen...

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by the-dude on Monday October 19, 2020 @03:48PM (#24830172)
So I start reading [2], scroll to 2016 only to find a tremendous list of unconvincing mini-facts?

How does this end up on Wikipedia?

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by mullingitover on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:18PM (#24830503)
What's 'mini' about facts like "Trump lied to voters about his efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow while he was campaigning, and his personal lawyer went to prison for lying to congress to cover up that project" ?

If you're interested in more, there's the very sizable list, "Links between Trump associates and Russian officials"

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates...

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by the-dude on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:25PM (#24830584)
That is a prime example of what I would call 'mini'. How is that remotely 'Russian interference'?

I am from NL, and I will raise you : our current Prime Minister promised all citizens € 1000. Guess what? We never got it.

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by mullingitover on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:35PM (#24830710)
Russia interferes on Trump's behalf. Trump campaign wins, promotes policies that are beneficial to Russia (slow walking support for Ukraine, attacking NATO, generally gutting the State Department, and a plethora of other moves that cripple US soft power, edit: Oh, and how could I forget sanctions relief and readmission to G8?), and Putin approves a real estate project that benefits Trump financially. It's telling that Trump is the first president in history not to divest himself of his global financial stakes, which represent a massive conflict of interest.

Pretty basic garden variety bribery.

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by the-dude on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:45PM (#24830813)
I agree it reads like a spy novel.

Is there any reason to believe the project would not have been approved without the alleged favors?

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Re:Six GRU Officers Charged in Connection with Worldwide Dep... by mullingitover on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:50PM (#24830867)
Does any project of that size get approved in Moscow without favors?
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