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Re:Ask HN: What did you purchase that measurably improved yo... by ivalm on Sunday October 18, 2020 @03:59PM (#24820626)
Rodale compares their own experimental farm, not organic yields on real commercial organic farms (many of which are run for more than 5 years). Their conventional yield is also on their farm, not real conventional farms.

Edit: Looking a bit further rodale has rest years that they don’t count for their organic fields. 25% of the years they literally don’t grow anything on a given plot, but they only compare the growth years.

Re:Ask HN: What did you purchase that measurably improved yo... by sdoering on Sunday October 18, 2020 @04:09PM (#24820714)
It is a scientific institute. So it isn't an organic farm either. So I am not sure if this argument applies in any direction.

It I am totally aware of studies like Verena Seufert et al. showing reduced yields between 5 to 39% depending on the context and used methodologies.

Edit: Regarding rest years. At least were I live both, organic or non organic farmers do that. Not sure how it is in other parts of the world.