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Re:Infection fatality rate of Covid-19 inferred from seropre... by notahacker on Saturday October 17, 2020 @06:54PM (#24814083)
> I personally know someone whose father likely died due to being unable to access health care in a timely fashion, as well as someone else who died of cancer after their chemotherapy was postponed. And I also know of two suicides in my extended social group in the past few months. It's tough to pin specific blame on lockdown for things like that. But it's certainly plausible that deaths like that would lead to excess deaths.

Sure, but we can look at when the excess deaths happened. Instead of being evenly distributed across the lockdown period, or peaking towards the end when people had longer without access to support, they came exactly when you'd expect deaths from an epidemic wave to peak before plummeting to normal levels towards the end of the lockdown period. Undoubtedly, individual deaths have resulted from lockdown, but the pattern of excess deaths matches COVID rather than lockdown being behind the aggregate increase.

Re:Infection fatality rate of Covid-19 inferred from seropre... by petertodd on Sunday October 18, 2020 @12:24AM (#24815536)
...but why would excess lockdown deaths happen in a uniformly distributed way? Lockdown itself wasn't applied in a uniform fashion: hospitals figured out pretty quickly that lack of care was killing people and modified policies to mitigate that damage. My own advice to friends and family was "probably best not to go to the hospital for that" in March, and back to normal in April when I realized that the numbers weren't as bad as portrayed. Anecdotally, all of the deaths I mentioned happened close to the beginning of lockdown in their respective countries.

Again, this isn't idle speculation: genuine mainstream health authorities believe lockdown has killed significant numbers of people. This is not a controversial position.

Re:Infection fatality rate of Covid-19 inferred from seropre... by notahacker on Sunday October 18, 2020 @08:04AM (#24817220)
> ...but why would excess lockdown deaths happen in a uniformly distributed way?

No, the question is why does the excess deaths distribution perfectly align with the expected and recorded COVID death spike and drop so sharply afterwards when lockdown was still in place.

It's uncontroversial that lockdown has killed and saved significant numbers of people for reasons other than COVID, but similarly it is entirely uncontroversial that the aggregate increase in excess deaths was caused by COVID. The idea that the inflection point COVID-time-to-death days after the start of lockdown is better explained by unannounced changes in policy or your personal advice to friends and family, on the other hand is about as scientifically credible as blaming 5G.