Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by 8note on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:20PM
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> personally I'll get back on the plane in 2021 and just make everyone else accept the risk.
FTFY
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by gotoeleven on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:39PM
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Yeah typically when you fly on a plane the rest of the passengers were forced onto the plane by proud boys.
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by 8note on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:07PM
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You have to get off the plane at some point, and then you're around people who did not get on the plane
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by aquadrop on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:48PM
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Why do you say that now in 2nd wave health care is being overrun? Amount of cases is much higher, but amount of deaths and hospitalizations is much lower.
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by rasz on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:03PM
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Number of deaths and hospitalizations is much lower because they arranged for the elderly and weak to die first, same way Cuomo send confirmed Covid cases back to nursing homes https://eu.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/alba...
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by eganist on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:12PM
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> That being said, I don't see how _any_ country is able to do anything other than sit this out. Everyone in the US, NL, even DE (which is doing okay in Europe) or NZ and TH (with no local infections) cannot do anything else than to wait for a vaccine to be available or before we just accept this as a reasonable risk.
Tactical lockdowns with a strategic approach of maintaining rapidly escalating procedures on a hair trigger is the approach NZ's been taking, and thus far, it's afforded them a much better quality of life compared to the rest of the world.
It's whack-a-mole, but shit, it's cheaper and more effective than whatever it is we're doing in the US.
Re:'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due ...
by ketamine__ on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:18PM
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I spent several months in the Netherlands during the pandemic. It was great. Walking around without a mask is underrated now I suppose.
I can only imagine that NZ is indeed sitting this out till a vaccine is available, because if countries that had herd immunity as a goal in the first place to not have that goal anymore, it probably means it isn't feasible.
That being said, I don't see how _any_ country is able to do anything other than sit this out. Everyone in the US, NL, even DE (which is doing okay in Europe) or NZ and TH (with no local infections) cannot do anything else than to wait for a vaccine to be available or before we just accept this as a reasonable risk.
Personally I think accepting the risk is the most likely situation. I do not have much confidence in a good vaccine being available in 2021, personally I'll get back on the plane in 2021 and just accept the risk. I als know that this is something a lot of people will not accept, but we cannot lock up the world economy for a few years for a virus where the fatality rate for healthy people is so low.