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Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by Retric on Saturday October 17, 2020 @08:37AM (#24809511)
Poor people move around vastly more frequently and often end up temporarily sharing living spaces.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by 0_____0 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @08:49AM (#24809572)
I came across a census worker in Portland who was doggedly trying to track down a former tenant of the house I was staying at. Having knocked doors I appreciate the hustle and tenacity the people on the ground for the census have.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by TheAdamAndChe on Saturday October 17, 2020 @08:48AM (#24809566)
Sounds like it's not discrimination against race then, but of economic status. The disenfranchisement of poor people.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by learc83 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @08:58AM (#24809622)
Poor white people aren't likely to have an undocumented person living in their household though. People in that situation are much less likely to talk to government employees or to fill out census forms in the first place.

So yes it's is undercounting poor people, but also disproportionately immigrants and relatives of immigrants.

Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:00AM (#24810449)
Poor white people aren't likely to have an undocumented - person of color - living in their household.

I've known a number of local households that had undocumented Canadians, Brits and Germans.

It's been my experience that Americans who are hyper-concerned with illegal immigration, aren't grinding their teeth over these nationalities.

Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by learc83 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:40AM (#24810780)
There's definitely a double standard. But Canadians and Europeans make up less than 5% of the total number of undocumented immigrants in the US.

So I still stand by my point that poor white people aren't likely to have undocumented people living in their household at all. Regardless of race.

>I've known a number of local households that had undocumented Canadians, Brits and Germans.

Also how many of those households were poor? There isn't nearly as much incentive for a poor Canadian, Brit, or German to come here as an undocumented immigrant because they'd be giving up guaranteed health care and far more permissive social services.

Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by WarOnPrivacy on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:42AM (#24818652)
Let's consider this conversely. Do you feel that the tone, tenor and actions (of immigration resistance) would be different, in any way, if Euro descendants made up 95% of immigrants?
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by viraptor on Saturday October 17, 2020 @08:56AM (#24809609)
It's not mutually exclusive. Discrimination against a race does increase poverty. And poverty increases discrimination against a race.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by Retric on Saturday October 17, 2020 @10:07AM (#24810067)
It’s easy to discriminate if you allow proxy’s. Just find something that hurts them more than it hurts you and repeat.

Race is already being used as a proxy for political affiliation. Using a proxy for Race as a proxy for political affiliation is less efficient, but still effective.

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Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by Schiendelman on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:29AM (#24809833)
Please don’t strawman on HN.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by rubyist5eva on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:36AM (#24809876)
I didn't strawman anything. Original question was asking about race discrimination and the response was about "poor people".
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by kube-system on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:47AM (#24809933)
The original question asked

> Is it more to do with poverty than race

Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by rubyist5eva on Saturday October 17, 2020 @10:13AM (#24810106)
Fair enough, I misinterpreted the original question because the quoted part of the article did not reference poverty. Thank you.
Re:The 2020 census is being ‘sabotaged,’ says leading U.S. s... by RonaldRaygun on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:50AM (#24809956)
> Is it more to do with poverty than race?

I believe they were specifically addressing this part of the parent comment. A benevolent reading of the reply would not point towards this rather blatantly racist interpretation of its meaning.