Re:Covid: Remdesivir 'has little or no effect' on survival, ...
by amluto on Friday October 16, 2020 @11:59AM
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> I can't fathom why it even should. Nonetheless, there were lots of fancy documents and presentations from the WHO and other such organisations explaining this strategy very hopefully.
I can fathom this easily. The general idea is to administer the type 2 oral vaccine (along with 1 and 3, but we’re talking about type 2 here) widely enough that you expect a high level of herd immunity. Specifically, you want sufficient immunity that any newly introduced cases of reverted-to-virulent type 2 will quickly die out. (If you have the resources, you also try to give almost everyone the injectable vaccine to prevent virulent type 2 cases from causing damage). Then you stop giving the type 2 vaccine. If it works, then type 2 is locally eradicated.
Maybe it’s “magical”, but this particular magic has worked in almost the entire world.
Re:Covid: Remdesivir 'has little or no effect' on survival, ...
by tptacek on Friday October 16, 2020 @02:37PM
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This seems like antivax advocacy. WHO would point out that vaccines have likely prevented over 13,000,000 cases of polio, while cPDVD has caused fewer than 800 cases.
Re:Covid: Remdesivir 'has little or no effect' on survival, ...
by orwin on Friday October 16, 2020 @11:59AM
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Please explain why you're downvoting, this is a fact, only wild polio is "eradicated" from africa, not vaccine-induced polio (type 1 and type 2 are often milder than wild polio however). And i think there was a polio outbreak in Soudan this year, so...
The original plan that the WHO and the rest of the global health community came up to deal with this also seems like total magical thinking to me - basically, everywhere would drop the type 2 poliovirus component (which corresponded to a virus whose wild type had been eliminated) from their live vaccines at once, which would leave none to turn into vaccine-derived poliovirus and type 2 woud just go away. It didn't work that way. I can't fathom why it even should. Nonetheless, there were lots of fancy documents and presentations from the WHO and other such organisations explaining this strategy very hopefully. The current ones don't have the same level of hope.