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Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by lki876 on Thursday October 15, 2020 @03:55AM (#24785997)
Indeed. Something thought to be right was actually wrong. Happens all the time. And of course something thought to be wrong was actually right. This is why disallowing "misinformation" is utterly stupid.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by dtech on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:04AM (#24786064)
This is not an argument to allow any fearmongering and actively spreading a harmful message. You can use this argument to say nothing should ever be forbidden/punished to say ever.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by lki876 on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:43AM (#24786275)
> This is not an argument to allow any fearmongering

So let's ban information that claims corona isn't that bad then, because it's DANGEROUS and you should BE SCARED and PEOPLE ARE DYING and if you don't wear the mask YOU COULD KILL PEOPLE.

Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by jstanley on Thursday October 15, 2020 @05:31AM (#24786633)
> You can use this argument to say nothing should ever be forbidden/punished to say ever.

Yes!

Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by dtech on Thursday October 15, 2020 @05:58AM (#24786784)
Ok, so everyone should be allowed to broadcast, promote and advertise: "all white people are inherently evil and criminal and should all be exterminated, go out and shoot every and kill every white person you see!"?
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by jstanley on Thursday October 15, 2020 @07:00AM (#24787161)
In my view: yes. You can say whatever you want, and if you say stupid things people will think you are stupid.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by lki876 on Friday October 16, 2020 @03:07AM (#24798338)
Then a hundred years after you were burnt at the stake, it turns out you may have had a point.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by read_if_gay_ on Thursday October 15, 2020 @09:37AM (#24788513)
With speech, obviously there’s going to be a line after which you descend into madness and that line is legally speaking usually drawn at directly inciting violence. That’s what is considered “spreading a harmful message”. But by censoring COVID, Youtube is moving this line quite a bit, to a point where we’re talking nowhere near as harmful messages. The point is that unlike with someone saying “kill people”, here it’s not that obvious whether an idea is “wrong” or “right”.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by dtech on Thursday October 15, 2020 @11:58AM (#24790002)
There's more things banned. I cannot put an ad on TV that all gay people or Christians should be fired and shunned from society, even though that's not inciting violence.

My point was more that there's limits to free speech when it's harmful as a response to someone who said that everything should always be allowed everywhere.

You can debate whether that should include Covid misinformation and to what extent, but I would say unsubstantiated claims like vaccines will make you infertile are harmful to public health and are definitely candidates.

Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by dragonwriter on Thursday October 15, 2020 @12:03PM (#24790061)
> I cannot put an ad on TV that all gay people or Christians should be fired and shunned from society

You absolutely can both legally, and practically at least the first and probably the second. Heck, the former has been part of the main editorial content on some TV outlets, not just advertising.

Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by SuoDuanDao on Thursday October 15, 2020 @07:34AM (#24787450)
Are you saying that's not allowed now?
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by dtech on Thursday October 15, 2020 @11:54AM (#24789938)
In most western countries you aren't allowed to put something like that on TV and would probably end up in jail.
Re:YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation by SuoDuanDao on Thursday October 15, 2020 @07:32AM (#24787436)
Stop fearmongering!