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Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by corrund on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:02AM (#24777274)
I prevented one terrorist attack by myself. Nobody knows that, because attack was prevented.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by zingplex on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:13AM (#24777418)
I understand that it is impossible to prove a negative, but at the same time given the scope of the surveillance dragnet I'd hope they'd have something they could point to. At this point I would even circumstantial evidence as to the programs efficacy would go a long way, but it doesn't look like they even have that.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by gopiandcode on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:46AM (#24777934)
Its not proving a negative, its proving an existential query, there exists terror attacks that were stopped by PRISM. If the data was useful, then they could certainly point to the in-progress attacks that were thwarted - stopping an attack does not erase all information about its existence.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:18AM (#24777486)
The government prevents thousands of terrorist attacks every year by being tolerable enough that the number of people filling rental trucks full of explosives is zero.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by jariel on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @02:08PM (#24779625)
? There are actually a myriad of interlocking protocols that help to thwart such activities, to ignore them is not reasonable.

Most poignantly there is literally an Ammonium Nitrate security program. [1]

As for the 'number of truck bombings being zero' ... it did happen and the average is 'more than zero' and when we consider the implications (an entire building and 100's of dead etc.) it's a concern.

Obviously, it's hard to determine the effectiveness of the various programs because they all play a part, but that there haven't been any such bombings since then is at likely a positive sign.

[1] https://www.cisa.gov/ammonium-nitrate-security-program

Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by Pick-A-Hill2019 on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:52AM (#24778030)
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by bigbubba on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:03PM (#24778161)
That was 25 years ago. The average number of such trucks per year is zero.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by Zigurd on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:47AM (#24777944)
The "secretly prevented attack" thing is bunk because really prevented attacks, and the plotters of those attacks, end up in court and in prison.
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by zepto on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:09PM (#24778221)
Do they? What about attacks prevented before a crime has been committed?

By your logic, gun control can’t prevent any shootings.

Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by zepto on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:08PM (#24778205)
How do you know it was only one?
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by jaywalk on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:26PM (#24778441)
Because he prevented it!
Re:PRISM – NSA surveillance program did not prevent a single... by zepto on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:23PM (#24779146)
Sure but he could have prevented others and not know about it!