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Re:That advice to women to ‘lean in’, be more confident it d... by jonfw on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @10:30AM (#24776920)
She showed a graph of 'hope for success' versus 'predicted probability for promotion'- it's just outright silly to attempt to represent something as complicated as this on two axises. Any attempt to quantify something like "hope for success" can branch into endless debate about setting success criteria, defining hope, measuring anything in this space, etc. This is a philosophical or psychological issue, not a mathematical one.

Data visualization is a terrible way to make an argument about human behavior.

Re:That advice to women to ‘lean in’, be more confident it d... by itsdrewmiller on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @09:30PM (#24783799)
This complaint seems like letting the perfect be the enemy of the good - the author took the data she had, applied it in what sounds like the best way related to the problem, and reported the outcome. It didn't seem like an especially strong result to me, though - while there is clearly a relationship between the chosen measure of confidence and promotion probability for men, it sure looks like it's there for women too, even if it doesn't pass the author's test of statistical significance.

It's also a reductionist view of what the advice in "lean in" is actually about. It's been a while since I read it, but my recollection is that it is about actually doing things like staying in the workforce even if you have kids, putting your name in for promotions, etc. I would be extremely surprised if choices like those are not correlated with likelihood of promotion.

Re:That advice to women to ‘lean in’, be more confident it d... by lumberingjack on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:21AM (#24777528)
Case in point, she is a woman. She's oversimplified her world so much that she thinks she's found THE answer
Re:That advice to women to ‘lean in’, be more confident it d... by shawnb576 on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:54PM (#24778804)
OK this is not an appropriate comment for HN

edit: or anywhere else

Re:That advice to women to ‘lean in’, be more confident it d... by some1else on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:25AM (#24777590)
I have seen men over-generalize things just as much as women. Case in point: your comment.