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Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by XorNot on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @10:54PM (#24772660)
I'm unclear how this works stop anything. Physical access is total access: there's a JTAG port in there somewhere.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by lmm on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:24AM (#24773381)
There may be a JTAG port in between the glued-together battery and screen, but it's not going to be easy for someone who gets access to your phone for 5 minutes to exploit that.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by XorNot on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @08:52PM (#24783547)
JTAG's the extreme case though: it's not like most existing hacks have involved that level of access. It's been mundane stuff like just going in through the USB interface. If Apple eliminate the USB interface entirely, they're still going to have to make it available by some other means to service/update the device. Which means they'll be adding that software stack to wifi/bluetooth.

Your 2 attack scenarios are: device is in evidence lock up, and can b cracked at will (so a security company probably comes up with a kit for cracking and hooking them up, sells the service to LE) - or what happened with T2, where the software stack just gets exploited.

Since you'll still need all those management interfaces that currently are only on the physical port to be somewhere - well I'd put money on removing the port actually making the device more vulnerable. Briefcase of GPUs to crack wifi and rootkit a phone if you can get on the same network.

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by lmm on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @11:36PM (#24784660)
My sense is that existing physical access exploits have relied on legacy assumptions that shouldn't exist for wifi/bluetooth - hopefully no-one is building systems that give wifi devices direct memory access, or boot over bluetooth. They'll need some level of management interface, certainly, but that's likely to be something purpose-built and more tightly constrained.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by kalleboo on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:23AM (#24773373)
Can't they burn a fuse to disable JTAG?
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by egsmi on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @10:34AM (#24776964)
JTAG is very useful to test that this particular iPhone was manufactured correctly, so Apple doesn’t completely disable it. That said, Apple does have a hardware disable that removes the ability to access registers and memory via JTAG. One only has this ability with special development iPhones that have to be obtained illegally, in the US anyway.

https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/10/ktrw-journey-...