San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S.

Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by irrational on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:42PM (#24771620)

My baseline is grilled cheddar cheese on plain white bread with Campbell's Tomato Soup is the greatest food ever invented. I once went to a work lunch at one of the city's most raved about restaurants. I ordered the grilled cheese and tomato soup. That was when I realized that I really am not a food connoisseur. How can something so simple as grilled cheese and tomato soup be so thoroughly ruined, just in an effort to make it fancy?

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by ryan_lane on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:53PM (#24771712)

You can't serve something like that at a restaurant and make it in a plain way, because it's something that basically everyone can make at home for really cheap. People are looking for an interesting take on something like that in a restaurant, which isn't going to fit what you want.

That's a poor choice to judge a restaurant on. You need to base your judgement on things you can't or won't cook at home because it takes too much time, is too complicated, or uses ingredients that are difficult to get.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by tikhonj on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:41AM (#24773142)

Well, you can't make something simple in a simple way unless you are both really confident and really good :).

In a sign of the crazy times we live in, Chez Panisse has started doing takeout. First time I tried it, I got a BLT sandwich. Exactly what it says on the tin: bacon, lettuce, tomato, no weird spices or creative takes or deconstruction. Just a stock BLT sandwich—except better in every way. I'm not even sure how. I would not have thought there was that much room to improve on a BLT through better ingredients and execution, but apparently there is.

Anyway, if you're in Berkeley, I would highly recommend giving it a try.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by sidlls on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @09:36PM (#24772303)

Sometimes people just want to go have a get-together including well-trod "comfort food" style means, but with someone else (the restaurant) doing the cooking and cleanup.

I don't go to restaurants to be entertained by the food or "impressed" by the "creativity" of the chef, and I'd wager neither do most people.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by dylz on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @09:58PM (#24772404)

Then you're looking for the equivalent of a solid takeaway place, not somewhere where you go for the "experience" and "gastronomy"

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by sidlls on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:28PM (#24779213)

That’s just one aspect of a vibrant food culture. That is, access to multiple cuisines is a different discussion from how fancy the preparations are.

There are plenty of “sit down” restaurants that aren’t fancy, but are more than “solid takeaway” that fit in this picture. And these are what most folks actually think of when they picture dining out.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by ghaff on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @08:04AM (#24775580)

Or just about any diner.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by noobermin on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @10:44PM (#24772614)

I like how this is downvoted. HN's culture is so not the nerd stereotype that people paint it as, it's much more elitist honestly.

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Re:San Francisco Apartment Rents Crater Up to 31%, Most in U.S. by chipotle_coyote on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @12:03AM (#24772996)

There's a kind of weird inverse elitism in going to a fine dining restaurant, ordering an expensive fancy grilled cheese and tomato soup combination, and bitterly complaining about it because it's not a can of Campbell's and a slice of American on white sandwich bread.

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