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Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by echelon on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @06:33PM (#24771080)
What do they do now? Only store a certain number of hours?

What about their most popular / famous streamers?

Why isn't YouTube buckling under the same pressure?

Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by rasz on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @06:39PM (#24771118)
>Extended VOD Storage: Partners have VODs stored for 60 days, vs only 14 days for Affiliates.

Youtube is riding the long tail with ads. Hardly anyone watches past VODs on Twitch.

Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by echelon on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @06:49PM (#24771197)
So Twitch is 100% live content. If the technology were easy to replicate and the talent/streamers went elsewhere, Twitch would have nothing?
Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by bcrosby95 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @06:54PM (#24771249)
Twitch has the audience. For that reason the talent and streamers won't go elsewhere. Unless you offer them a sweetheart deal - which other streaming services have in the past - but none of those deals have worked out favorably for those streaming services.
Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by tialaramex on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:25PM (#24771493)
Exactly this. A streamer's audience is only "their" audience the way that say the audience for Game of Thrones was "their" audience. It's a very, very long tail.

Other outfits can probably injure Twitch by poaching key stars, but it's not a path to success for these rival services. The absolute most they can achieve is kill off Twitch, at which point it's as likely the piles of small creators just do Youtube, rather than figuring out tooling and financials for your new live service instead.

And if your plan is "Aha, we'll kill Youtube too" well you'd better be loaded for bear 'cos that platform is not messing around and the people behind it aren't going to run out of money any time soon.

Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by eigen on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @10:04PM (#24772439)
> Other outfits can probably injure Twitch by poaching key stars, but it's not a path to success for these rival services. The absolute most they can achieve is kill off Twitch, at which point it's as likely the piles of small creators just do Youtube, rather than figuring out tooling and financials for your new live service instead.

Microsoft tried with Mixer, they poached some Twitch stars and shutdown earlier this year. those stars just returned to Twitch.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-07/microsoft...

Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by Nuzzerino on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:55PM (#24771721)
> And if your plan is "Aha, we'll kill Youtube too" well you'd better be loaded for bear 'cos that platform is not messing around and the people behind it aren't going to run out of money any time soon.

We'll see what happens after the impending antitrust litigation I suppose.

Re:Google is killing unlimited Drive storage for non-enterpr... by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @04:03AM (#24774292)
Yeah, and have the uploaders select what they want to save as a more permanent clip.

I believe (I'm not at home in this world at all) the streamers use Twitch for live streaming, then edit (or have employees edit) their sessions into 10-20 minute Youtube videos / series.

Basically, Twitch is losing a LOT of engagement to Youtube because of that.