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Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by sushicalculus on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:19PM (#24767608)
I have an iPhone11. My phone says it connects to 5G already, so I’m actually confused by this launch. Why would iOS tell me I’m connected to 5G? I’ll be honest that I’m unfamiliar with this space
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by coder543 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:19PM (#24767617)
5Ge is a marketing term AT&T invented as a rebrand of 4G LTE. It isn't 5G, but it's probably faster than real 5G for now.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/09/atts-...

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by Nextgrid on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:52PM (#24768815)
Apple deserves to be shamed for this one, as they implemented a feature that essentially allows carriers to lie and display whatever network technology icon they want, instead of displaying the true status as reported by the network interface.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by huslage on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:46PM (#24769502)
This is a part of the standard, nothing really Apple can do about it.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by Nextgrid on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @08:44PM (#24772004)
Source? It's the first time I hear that carriers are able to override the network technology/protocol logo. As far as I know the whole "carrier profile" thing (which is what allows carriers to do this, among other things like arbitrarily restrict tethering, etc) is Apple-specific.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @08:50PM (#24772050)
No the same capacities exist,though perhaps not under the same name, on Android; my S10+ dutifully switched from reporting 4G LTE to 5Ge when AT&T decided on that lie.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by Nextgrid on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @09:34PM (#24772293)
Android manufacturers are even worse when it comes to this as they let carriers customize the firmware completely (which then interferes with updates) and should also be shamed. This doesn't however say that this is some kind of standard; it's just OS manufacturers being in bed with carriers and doing them favors.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by OkGoDoIt on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @10:29PM (#24772536)
I remember this rolled out with an update to iOS, so it’s not purely carrier-specific. Apple changed something in the operating system to allow it.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by soylentcola on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:28PM (#24767697)
I got stuck trying to explain (without being the annoying "well, actually" guy) why my SO's phone wasn't screwed up when switching from ATT to a different carrier.

Because on the old SIM it said 5G dammit! Now it only says 4G so how is that not slower??

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:23PM (#24767652)
AT&T defines LTE with better back haul as “5G”. It’s BS.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by tenebrisalietum on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:19PM (#24767616)
Telecom companies renamed some 4G networks 5G because they technically fall within the standard.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by freehunter on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:58PM (#24771745)
Which is silly because even most 4G networks (LTE) don’t technically fall within the original standard of 4G. ITU actually lowered the standard of 4G to meet the limitations of LTE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)).