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Re:Why Look at Flying Saucers? by GuB-42 on Monday October 12, 2020 @01:37PM (#24757012)
The thing is, when people talk about UFOs, we always think "aliens", when in fact, it is just as the acronym suggests: unidentified flying objects. They wouldn't be unidentified if we knew they were aliens.

Aliens are an extraordinary claim, we need to check out a lot of things before we start considering them. Take the "life on Venus" recent claim. There was a lot of work done to even consider it. They used results from several observatories, analyzed every known explanations to rule them out one after the other, and even now they still consider it unlikely compared to other currently unknown chemistry. So if you see a scientist and tell him, I saw a flying saucer, it was aliens, he will laugh at you because there are thousands of other explanations to look for first.

On the other hand "mass hysteria" is also a lousy explanation. In reality, I think they are usually optical illusions. For example, the moon may appear like something else in unusual atmospheric conditions, and if you cross-reference the position of the moon with some UFO sightings, you get a lot of correlations. Other cases include small, close objects like insects appear like large, fast objects, this is common among pilots who are trained to look for other planes. There are also many psychological effects that aren't hysteria, for example it is common for people to "remember" things that never happened, which is also a big problem in a court of law: our memories are unreliable. Add to that defective equipment, pranks, etc... and you can probably cover most of the sightings.

Then there is a small minority of true mass hysteria, secret programs, unexplained physical phenomena, etc... and only then you can start to consider aliens.

And to make thing worse, more often than not, there is very little data.

Re:Why Look at Flying Saucers? by jordwest on Monday October 12, 2020 @01:52PM (#24757230)
For sure, the data is a big problem. But I think to compare with your Venus example - that’s an area where there’d probably be hundreds of astrophysicists around the world who’d jump at the chance to work on that publicly.

With this phenomenon however, it’s like the polar opposite. Nobody wants to associate themselves with it, so even if there is something worth studying, we’re not studying it.

Re:Why Look at Flying Saucers? by rbanffy on Monday October 12, 2020 @04:01PM (#24758805)
> They wouldn't be unidentified if we knew they were aliens.

Technically, you can become a UFO if you turn off your transponder. You are flying AND you are not broadcasting your identity.

I'll show myself out.