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Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by donatj on Monday October 12, 2020 @11:27AM (#24755391)
Somehow you completely missed the point of the paradox of tolerance.

You cite it as if it wasn't completely contrary to what you are saying. Facebook's acts are being intolerant to beliefs they disagree with.

The paradox of tolerance states that "society must be intolerant of intolerance" thus society must be intolerant to Facebook's intolerant actions here.

Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by anigbrowl on Monday October 12, 2020 @11:34AM (#24755476)
You're just using abstraction to move the subject from the first incidence of 'intolerance' to the second, ie suggesting that FB's choice to target content is the epitome of intolerance, rather than considering the nature of the content they are attempting to socially sanction.

Eliding context to reframe a specific action as a general behavior is misleading, although you may not have realize this.

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Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by albedoa on Monday October 12, 2020 @12:10PM (#24755919)
Then you are not arguing that OP missed the point of the Paradox of Intolerance. You are arguing that Holocaust denialism is not intolerance.

How many people publicly deny the Holocaust but are otherwise tolerant of Jews, homosexuals, etc.? I'm really curious what you think that Venn diagram looks like.

Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by donatj on Monday October 12, 2020 @12:27PM (#24756128)
If you're posting actually intolerant views, yes, be intolerant to intolerance. That's not this though.

Banning views that may be associated with otherwise intolerant people but aren't themselves intolerant is just a road to hell. It's literally stereotyping.

You could draw a lot of very hateful venn diagrams against most major religions. That shouldn't stop people from expressing their faith because you can draw a line.

Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by nkoren on Monday October 12, 2020 @11:58AM (#24755777)
Holocaust denial is inseparably bound up with being intolerant of the right for Jews (and Roma, and Homosexuals, and so forth.) to exist.

If you are a holocaust denialist, then you are by definition absolutely intolerant, and I am perfectly fine with you being expunged from any community of the civilised.

Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by donatj on Monday October 12, 2020 @12:07PM (#24755892)
I disagree with your premise. Just because a belief can be associated with another belief by a venn diagram of people who believe them, doesn't make the two intrinsically linked.

I am a person of jewish descent, and I find the action of silencing people far more disturbing and closer to that of the reich, than those of the people being silenced.

Re:Removing Holocaust Denial Content by shadowgovt on Monday October 12, 2020 @12:10PM (#24755921)
I disagree with your definition of "intrinsically linked."

if the Venn diagram is nearly a circle, the two are intrinsically linked.