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Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by epistasis on Sunday October 11, 2020 @01:47PM (#24747609)
That's a weird world view. University of Sussex researchers are "biased" but you link to the Nuclear Innovation Alliance?
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by mulmen on Sunday October 11, 2020 @01:50PM (#24747633)
I think the implication is that the Nuclear Innovation Alliance is biased but still making a good point.
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by epistasis on Sunday October 11, 2020 @02:16PM (#24747817)
It would be good to do a bit more work to justify that, then.

The NIA blog post doesn't even address the core point of the paper. It looks at a correlation of existing energy by US states, where our nuclear was largely built in the 1970s and 1980s.

In contrast, the academic paper looks at what has happened to countries , globally, that have tried to build nuclear since the 1990s.

And this is a crucial distinction, because the problem with nuclear is that economies have changed since the 1970s and we have new technologies with different costs.

So what if we look at what has happened to US states that, since 1990, have tried to build nuclear versus those that have tried to build renewables?

Nuclear has failed since the 1990s in the US, even with construction project with very strong community support and federal regulatory support from the NRC.

So when you ask the question that the paper asks: "does building new nuclear or renewables decrease carbon more with modern economies?" We see that the US recapitulates the same correlation that researchers found globally.

This huge bias of nuclear proponents, the inability to address the cost issue and very basic construction issues, is far more problematic for nuclear than a corrective analysis of what has happened to grids that have pursued different strategies.

Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by mulmen on Sunday October 11, 2020 @06:17PM (#24749570)
I’m not making a statement to the validity of DennisP’s comment. Just clarifying the perceived meaning.
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by epistasis on Sunday October 11, 2020 @08:07PM (#24750221)
Sorry, didn't mean to direct that at you. But since I had been downvoted so much I wanted to at least poke at the general narrative here. I still find it odd is that an unfounded accusation of bias is supported with a link to a clearly biased source, and that's somehow acceptable here.
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by DennisP on Monday October 12, 2020 @07:25AM (#24753317)
Um...just to be extra clear, my "unfounded accusation of bias" was directed to the source you find "clearly biased."
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by epistasis on Monday October 12, 2020 @10:34AM (#24754715)
I can't believe it took me reading it 5 times and two corrections to understand that ! Ugh.
Re:We Need a Nuclear New Deal, Not a Green New Deal by DennisP on Sunday October 11, 2020 @02:10PM (#24747766)
Yes, exactly.