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Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by adrianmonk on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:09PM (#24743101)
The instruction manual should say. But in my experience, many (most?) cars have a sticker inside of the door that you flip open to access the gas cap.

Here's a random example I found: https://i.imgur.com/nDkwl0i.jpg

It doesn't actually say "octane", but note that it says "MIN.(R+M)/2", and (R+M)/2 is what you'll see on the pump too, as in this example image: https://img.hmn.com/fit-in/900x506/filters:upscale()/stories...

(This is for the US. I would assume other countries are similar.)

Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by im3w1l on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:58PM (#24743287)
There are different ways of calculating octane and that's why they specify the method.
Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by Beldin on Sunday October 11, 2020 @05:40AM (#24744704)
It seems like in the US, 89, 91 are reasonable octane numbers (from reactions to this post). Around here, I've never seen stuff that low - here, it's Euro95 and Euro98. I've been told a real long time ago that the 95 and 98 in there were octane numbers.

Anyone any idea if octane numbers are calculated differently in US vs EU? Or if someone lied to me? Or if the US is really using much lower-grade petrol than is Conon in the EU?

Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by adrianmonk on Sunday October 11, 2020 @02:30PM (#24747926)
Yes, they're calculated differently. This covers it pretty well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating#Measurement_meth...

TLDR, the US and Canada use "(R+M)/2" (also called Anti-Knock Index), and much of the rest of the world uses RON (Research Octane Number).

If you zoom in closely on the first image in my comment above, you can see that the sticker has both. It says "MIN.(R+M)/2 87 Regular" and "MIN.RON 91 Normale".

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Tangentially, you will see lower-octane fuel in specific parts of the US. Denver, Colorado is nicknamed "the mile-high city" because its elevation is about 1 mile (1.6 km) above sea level. In many parts of the US, you will see octane ratings of around 87, 89, and 93 at the pump, but in Denver you might see 85, 87, and 91. The thinner air reduces the need for high octane.

I suppose something similar must happen in Europe, but it may not be as common or well-known. From what I can tell, non of Europe's large cities are at that high of an elevation.

Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by zaarn on Monday October 12, 2020 @03:14AM (#24752148)
In my experience in germany, gas is sold as is from the tank, so even at 1200m you'll get Euro95 or Euro98.
Re:How does a gas pump know to shut itself off? (1981) by nvarsj on Sunday October 11, 2020 @05:57AM (#24744752)
They are calculated differently. US numbers are 8-12 lower than EU for the same petrol.