ps: viaweb was ages ago, it was cool and famous and world didn't care. Social structures are odd and people want to belong to their own cult, php, js, python were a 'better' fit for the uneducated people of that time, now they are the world and still only care about their own little world. Until they get a new idea, which they now see the value of and will integrate them shamelessly. CL nowhere to be found. It's a sad fact of life, CL heads don't have the desire to dominate, so their language features will be assimilated silently.