Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster for Google

Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster... by nobody9999 on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:24AM (#24726806)

>I wouldn’t be surprised if Oracle wins on copyright (I think it is almost impossible for Google to count to 5 on their merger doctrine argument) but I disagree that fair use is a long shot. I wonder about the differences (which definitely do exist) between Oracle's Java API and the OpenJDK Java API.

While they really have to be substantially similar to allow interoperability, OpenJDK is open source (GPL) and Oracle's Java is not.

That brings up a couple questions which don't directly bear on the case just heard by the Supremes, but are (IMHO) relevant to potential second-order consequences of a ruling for Oracle:

1. Given that the OpenJDK API is substantially similar to the Oracle Java API, could Google avoid repercussions by switching to the former from their "adaptation" of the latter?

2. Should an API be considered eligible for copyright, wouldn't that enable opportunities for language and library developers to restrict others from developing competing (via performance or utility enhancements) languages/libraries by forcing anyone who wished to implement enhancements to either purchase a license or flat out deny them the ability to do so (assuming the product --including the API isn't open source)?

3. If (2) is the case, what does that mean for incremental improvements of languages and libraries?

I'm not a java dev or a copyright expert, so pardon me if I missed an important point.

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Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster... by imtringued on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:51AM (#24728953)

>2. Should an API be considered eligible for copyright, wouldn't that enable opportunities for language and library developers to restrict others from developing competing (via performance or utility enhancements) languages/libraries by forcing anyone who wished to implement enhancements to either purchase a license or flat out deny them the ability to do so (assuming the product --including the API isn't open source)?

It would be a software patent except not by name and it would last significantly longer. I can already see both software and hardware patents being abandoned if this court sets a precedent that APIs can be copyrighted. The next day people will want to add everything patents do simply because copyright has a longer duration and it is effective immediately.

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Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster... by thu2111 on Friday October 09, 2020 @04:14AM (#24727881)

They already switched to OpenJDK a while ago. I think this case covers historical damages back from before they did that.

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