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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by ra7 on Thursday October 08, 2020 @10:00PM (#24725981)
> Maybe if Waymo demonstrates that they can drive on and off all major highways in the world without hd mapping of them. Then i might believe they are ahead.

So, can Tesla do this right now?

Also, why should Waymo not use HD mapping when they clearly have the ability to do it? Seems like a weird criteria.

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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by nickik on Sunday October 11, 2020 @07:51AM (#24745160)
Because you can't map the whole constantly changing world.

And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world.

I'm going with the better process, not the better demo.

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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by ra7 on Sunday October 11, 2020 @11:30AM (#24746443)
> And its highly questionable that their mapping can actually deal with all the incredibly complexity of the real world.

Funny, I have the same the opinion of Tesla’s camera-only approach.

> I'm going with the better process, not the better demo.

A “demo” with 20 million autonomous miles clocked vs 12.2 miles. The “process” that has so far yielded very little in terms of actual autonomous driving if you ignore the FSD marketing speak.

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