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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by gbronner on Thursday October 08, 2020 @08:55PM (#24725608)
Hardware costs will go way down. Lidar @ 100$, cheaper chips, cheaper sensors, etc.

They are still in a learning phase -- they charge enough so as not to distort rider behavior, but they expect to lose money on each ride.

Apart from that, why build cars when you can sell the system to everyone?

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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by kanwisher on Friday October 09, 2020 @05:24AM (#24728185)
Lidar requires accurate maps, using vision allows Tesla to drive on roads its never seen
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Re:Waymo is opening its driverless service to more people in... by gbronner on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:25PM (#24731499)
You can use both if you want to. Tesla went with cameras only because they thought Lidar was too expensive.

Not having lidar has directly caused a bunch of autopilot crashes, so I expect they'll add it.

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