Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster...
by az226 on Thursday October 08, 2020 @07:55PM
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Google would lose if they would continue hammering the interop point and the justices would dig deeper. Google only copied a selective set of Oracle's Java libraries. If they were about interop, they would have copied all of them. So no, Google didn't copy the libraries because of interoperability reasons. Google copied them so they would get access to the large developer community and ride the coattails of the successful investments into the Java platform that Oracle made. As one of the justices said, it's a one-way interoperability.
Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster...
by tylerchr on Friday October 09, 2020 @02:07AM
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> Google copied them so they would get access to the large developer community and ride the coattails of the successful investments into the Java platform that Oracle made.
I like this framing and think it’s entirely correct, but I don’t agree that it necessarily dooms the interoperability argument.
Google wasn’t trying to achieve compatibility with existing code (for which, you’re right, they’d have needed to take the whole set) but rather compatibility with existing developers. Arguably, that is still interoperability.
Re:Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster...
by az226 on Friday October 09, 2020 @09:50PM
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I see your point. But because it would be interoperable with the developers and not the end users, so it’s still no dice for Google. The QWERTY keyboard is a good example of interoperability with end users (but not of copyright itself). So the courts would not give weight to that aspect.
I think this is a very important point. I haven't read all of the briefs in this case, or looked at the arguments presented at the hearing, so I don't know if Google's lawyers stressed this point, but they sure ought to.