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Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by esperent on Thursday October 08, 2020 @01:01AM (#24716011)
It depends where in the world you live. I live in Vietnam and a couple of weeks ago they burnt the entire local landfill site because it was too full (for a city of about 200,000 people, took about 4 days to burn). Now, I'm pretty sure that's not government policy here and probably illegal... But that doesn't change the fact that for a lot of the world, that's still how landfill works.
Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by FooHentai on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:36AM (#24716470)
In March 2019 storm water released 135 tonnes of rubbish from a landfill on the west coast of NZ, spreading it across a 64km area of otherwise natural beauty. It was touch-and-go on declaring it a national disaster but in the end it wasn't, and it fell to volunteers to clean up the surface evidence of the spill, at least what hadn't made it down the fox river and out to sea.

Quite a bit more of that kind of thing expected with the increase in extreme weather events from climate change. In Westland alone there are another 12 at-risk old landfill sites. It's estimated that the cost of preventing further spills from the one already-open landfill alone is ~2.3M. In an economically depressed region like Westland it won't be funded, and they're far from the only region in NZ that's facing this problem. Just the first to have experienced a spill event.

Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by theptip on Thursday October 08, 2020 @11:19AM (#24719895)
I think cleaning up old sites should be prioritized; this is kind of the same commons maintenance as decommissioning old nuclear reactors.

Unfortunately the purely-for-profit structure of these long-term ventures can mean that there is no money to cover the cleanup if things go really wrong, depending on who owns the site. I think you need to look at some sort of cleanup fund in escrow as a precondition for building sites like this, which should incentivize improvements in safety measures too.

Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by FooHentai on Thursday October 08, 2020 @04:11PM (#24723348)
For sure, I’ve argued for an equivalent of the superfund for NZ previously, and to bring it to bear on site remediations such as this. It’s not a perfect model, but heck it’s better than doing things ad-hoc and asking for point funding, turning things that should have been foreseen and managed over the long term into unpleasant sudden surprises.
Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by theptip on Thursday October 08, 2020 @11:22AM (#24719938)
Absolutely. This is one of the big problems with recycling as currently implemented in the US; it’s based on shipping our waste to countries with much worse waste-handling practices.
Re:Recycling was a lie to sell more plastic, recycling indus... by esperent on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:10PM (#24725685)
Not just recycling but rubbish too, often disguised as recycling.