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Re:Leaving Mozilla by thatguy0900 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @10:37PM (#24715075)
I would think you'd have to hire someone who doesn't want the job to begin with
Re:Leaving Mozilla by cutemonster on Friday October 09, 2020 @12:32PM (#24731599)
Hmm, My thoughts are more like hiring someone who cares a lot about the company's higher goals and vision, more than about his/her own career.

Maybe that's not possible to find in traditional profit maximizing companies, because who cares about maximizing the shareholders' profits

Re:Leaving Mozilla by thatguy0900 on Friday October 09, 2020 @02:25PM (#24732841)
I was thinking more along the lines of old political leaders who willingly gave up power, like george Washington or Marcus Aurelius. Yeah, I agree. Maybe you could find someone who cared about some companies, but most companies don't have a vision at all. Is there anyone who actually deeply cares about nestles higher vision? I think if you could find someone both willing and able to do will as ceo while being completely uninterested in being a ceo it would go well, but there can't be many of those people.
Re:Leaving Mozilla by cutemonster on Sunday October 11, 2020 @08:37AM (#24745377)
George Washington seems like a good example to me -- then I understand what you mean. (I read on Wikipedia about Marcus Aurelius but didn't find anything except for that he was a stoic thinker? What that now means)

And maybe it's possible to find such people, like GW, for non executive roles, too.

What if maybe Nestle doesn't actually have a vision?

If they just picked words that sound good, as a PR thing, to sell more?

Re:Leaving Mozilla by thatguy0900 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:10PM (#24769058)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus probably because I was thinking of this guy, Marcus Aurelius just said he didn't want to be emporer but did it as a duty to the state, got them mixed up. I think nestle not having a vision is the reason it won't ever have a moral ceo, though, there's no reason for anyone to push a moral person to the top when morality will probably produce less results. Even if you find such people it's hard to promote them without a sense of ethics at the top I think.
Re:Leaving Mozilla by cutemonster on Thursday October 15, 2020 @02:01PM (#24791625)
Thanks for the link, interesting to read :-)

Hmm yes maybe in a way, some organizations can be "immune" to becoming more ethical / less depraved

Maybe the way to handle that, is to start another organization and try to out complete the wicked one