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Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by ryandrake on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @11:15AM (#24709103)
I think the ship has sailed on the trustworthiness of online reviews from rando people. Pretty much every store or review site that aggregates user-submitted content has done a poor job of removing spam and fake reviews, and people are finally starting to realize how worthless the ratings are. Even if someone does crack this nut and figures it out, they won't be believed because of how fake everything has been for the last 20 years.

I think the best thing online stores can do at this point is just nuke all user-submitted ratings and reviews. They're 99% garbage.

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by kbenson on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:39PM (#24712459)
Well, there wasn't a huge incentive for the biggest players to actually fix the problem. As long as Amazon was able to push the cost of returns to others, they only cared just enough that it didn't hurt their brand. This goes for both bad products and poorly advertised products.

Now that there have been some recent rulings that Amazon is liable for defective products they sell[1], we might see a difference as they put actual effort into it since it's more directly related to the bottom line of their e-commerce business.

1: https://www.businessinsider.com/court-rules-amazon-liable-de...

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by Polylactic_acid on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @09:22PM (#24714698)
I have found that the best method is to just add "reddit" to my search of the product name. While it is most certainly gamed, you still see mostly real content as well as descriptions and pictures of issues.

Seeing 4 posts with pictures of the same failure on reddit is a pretty good sign the product has a problem.

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by jaclaz on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @11:57AM (#24709497)
>I think the best thing online stores can do at this point is just nuke all user-submitted ratings and reviews. They're 99% garbage.

Yes, in order to re-start, but what then? The whole user reviews concept is bonkers, I would add that there are - besides "fake" reviews - "real" ones BUT written by clueless people (in good faith, but completely disconnected from an objective rating), and in this it is also way off the "5 star" rating where 4 stars are already "not so good".

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by SamBam on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @12:10PM (#24709630)
I think the "restart" goes back to trusted reviewers/companies offering reviews as their business. E.g. Consumer Reports, Wirecutter, etc.

Then it's entirely how much you trust the reviewers, and whether you agree with their matrics/tastes.

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by tunesmith on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @12:51PM (#24710117)
Maybe there should be leagues of reviewer companies that can get promoted and relegated, based off of how well their reviews align to purchasing boosts and complaints. That's probably a horrible idea.

I really like wire cutter but they convinced me to buy an awesome convection toaster oven that takes seven minutes to lightly toast a piece of bread on its highest setting.

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by mauvehaus on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @12:30PM (#24709866)
My "favorite" useless review is the "I just got it and unboxed it. I haven't used it yet, but I know it's going to be good!" five star review. How I hate those.
Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by jaclaz on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @01:13PM (#24710383)
>How I hate those.

Exactly, and rightly so.

But as well the "negative" ones like (I swear I have seen more than one of these) "The item arrived but it is a darker yellow than what seen in the pictures on the site." which may have some meaning if you order - say - a scarf to match a coat (but you'd better go to a shop with the coat and find a matching colour scarf) but doesn't really apply to - still say - a chainsaw or a power tool.

Re:Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for dur... by WesleyJohnson on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @12:50PM (#24710111)
Loosely related, but flickchart is a moving ranking site whose tagline is: "If they're all 5 star movies, which one's the best?" I wonder if something like that could be adapted for product review sites? I suppose that would require you to have purchased 2 different cast iron pans, for example, to pick a favorite though.