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Re:USB3: Why it's a bit harder than USB2 by avian on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @06:48AM (#24706958)
How abuse-proof are the optical connectors on those? Can you carry devices and cables in dusty bags all day and not worry about getting dirt in the optical path?
Re:USB3: Why it's a bit harder than USB2 by baybal2 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @07:15AM (#24707094)
Yes, I think connectors are now the weakest part of an optical cable.

Singlemode's biggest weakness is alignment, optics, and a big change for a single dust particle to do a double digit decibel drop.

Either terminations will have to be done with some abuse proofing ferrule with a built-in lens, or every optical cable have to be active, with a transmitter glued to it.

The later in comparison to first, solves the issue in its entirety, and is not that much of a crazy proposition today.

Even the most fancy laser chips like EAM, and MZI modulated ones, can be made for cents if the competition will made vendors to drop prices.

Re:USB3: Why it's a bit harder than USB2 by NovemberWhiskey on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:26AM (#24707487)
>The later in comparison to first, solves the issue in its entirety, and is not that much of a crazy proposition today.

Right - you can buy these right now: https://www.corning.com/optical-cables-by-corning/worldwide/...

Re:USB3: Why it's a bit harder than USB2 by hurrrrrrrr on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @11:22AM (#24709172)
And how much more do they cost in comparison with hooking a few copper wires to a simple copper plug manufactured in china?
Re:USB3: Why it's a bit harder than USB2 by baybal2 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @11:40AM (#24709343)
$30-$40 wholesale in China, but...

1. Single mode fibre already costs less than high high frequency cabling.

2. A standard written from scratch can move all smart electronics, and even some passives from the transceiver into the device.

3. The moment a transceiver turns into a standardised single chip device, economies of scale turn enormous.

4. Optics can be simplified for direct attach devices.

5. Cheapest transceivers sets + cabling for single mode 10G ethernet already cost less than $10 wholesale.