Re:DDR5 Is Coming: First 64GB DDR5-4800 Modules from SK Hynix
by gameswithgo on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:09AM
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The reason Zen1 (and 2) speed up a lot from ram speed increases is because the memory controller speed is tied to ram speed. So when you bump up the ram speed you also bump the memory controller speed, which reduces ram latency and inter-cpu communication latency.
There is no telling what the memory controller -> ram ratio will be with ddr5, the memory controller has speed limits, so you aren't going to get free speed just because the dr5 starts at 4800, because the zen memory controller can't run that fast anyway.
Re:DDR5 Is Coming: First 64GB DDR5-4800 Modules from SK Hynix
by formerly_proven on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @11:27AM
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Zen 2 IMC can do DDR4-5000, but it's rather pointless, because it requires un-coupled mode with IFCLK != UCLK (since IFCLK cannot be pushed to more than ~1.9 GHz, and even that is not stable on many CPUs), which adds so much latency that you _need_ DDR4-5000+ to approach the performance of DDR4-3800 with IFCLK = UCLK.
Re:DDR5 Is Coming: First 64GB DDR5-4800 Modules from SK Hynix
by gruez on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @09:48AM
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>even Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) because the memory controller is smarter so the slower RAM is less of a detriment
Source? I'm not of zen 2 having a "smarter" memory controller that improves performance. AFAIK the only improvements that they did implement (that could be construed as relating to the memory subsystem) was larger caches and a better branch predictor.
The short of it is it's very hard to make predictions here.