Re:State sanctioned secrecy: NSA's criminality shield
by somesortofsystm on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @05:19AM
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>What are your damages from the NSA collecting all your metadata, or even from recording a conversation?
Well, here we have the argument of the 'little man'.
If I am wahern, the answer to your question is: probably not much.
If I am Elon Musk, the answer may surprise you. The damages from retaliation by members of the elite NSA club, and their military-industrial cronies, could be HUGE.
Are we willing to live in that sort of society?
This is not a good basis of support for State Secrecy - which has, incidentally, ALWAYS been a corrupting influence in every single society which makes it a keystone policy of conduct.
Secrets are corruption. States, which do not exist unless they are continually perpetuated as open truths, become utterly corrupt the moment they start keeping secrets - while becoming resolute and strong when secrecy is dissuaded.
>qualified immunity and similar doctrines
If what you are doing requires qualified immunity or similar, it is a reactive, failing doctrine, not a productive one. The problem is obviously further upstream, perhaps in the cause for secrecy in the first place.
Well, here we have the argument of the 'little man'.
If I am wahern, the answer to your question is: probably not much.
If I am Elon Musk, the answer may surprise you. The damages from retaliation by members of the elite NSA club, and their military-industrial cronies, could be HUGE.
Are we willing to live in that sort of society?
This is not a good basis of support for State Secrecy - which has, incidentally, ALWAYS been a corrupting influence in every single society which makes it a keystone policy of conduct.
Secrets are corruption. States, which do not exist unless they are continually perpetuated as open truths, become utterly corrupt the moment they start keeping secrets - while becoming resolute and strong when secrecy is dissuaded.
>qualified immunity and similar doctrines
If what you are doing requires qualified immunity or similar, it is a reactive, failing doctrine, not a productive one. The problem is obviously further upstream, perhaps in the cause for secrecy in the first place.
NSA need to keep secrets, why? Fix that why.