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Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by WalterBright on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:24PM (#24689817)
If I become bedridden, I will welcome a smart speaker. Until then, nope. Even if it wasn't about privacy issues, being too lazy to get up and turn a knob is terrible for one's health.

I've also considered one for my shop, so if I get pinned under the car or something I can yell for 911. But I'd only turn it on if I was about to do something dangerous. I might also get one if I decide I'm at risk for "I've fallen and I can't get up". (That happened to a relative, it took her 2 days to inch across the floor to get to the phone.)

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by eslaught on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:44PM (#24690063)
Just FYI, there are devices specifically designed for this. It's basically a phone you hang around your neck, and it detects falls and uses an audio prompt (calling 911 on your behalf if you don't respond in 60 seconds, or something). My grandmother uses one since she's had a lot of falls.
Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by WalterBright on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:50PM (#24690131)
Good to know, thanks.
Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by nobody9999 on Monday October 05, 2020 @03:05PM (#24690885)
>Good to know, thanks.

And it's not new either. I remember these TV ads[0] from when I was a teenager (1980s) and my peer group and I found them quite amusing.

These days, the same folks take a more threatening tack[1] (a sign of the times, perhaps?), which I find pretty galling.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I've_fallen,_and_I_can't_get_u...!

[1] https://www.ispot.tv/ad/IXwc/life-alert-tragic-outcome

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by WalterBright on Monday October 05, 2020 @07:26PM (#24693172)
Haha, I wondered if anyone would catch the reference. Sadly, they're disappearing along with "plop plop fizz fizz", "where's the beef", "hey mikey", "hello betty" or "gee your hair smells terrific".
Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by nobody9999 on Monday October 05, 2020 @08:20PM (#24693607)
Yep. One of my personal favorites was "We make your dreams come true!"[0] which was a local thing where I come from, but is truly iconic!

Not to mention the "Lullabuy of old Broadway."[1]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uosIpj-CRs

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwlvkUMsDgI

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by bobwall on Monday October 05, 2020 @09:44PM (#24694021)
This was one of my tops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fucxG-he2qU Keith Hernandez, Emmitt Smith, and Walt Frazier. There were older commercials for this, but Emmitt was just soo funny in it. "Ohhh it's bad"
Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by nobody9999 on Monday October 05, 2020 @10:11PM (#24694140)
That's definitely a good one, but I always dug the "Rejected!" "No play for Mister Gray!"[0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNkKTlDilY

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:34PM (#24689953)
I accept disability of some sort as a valid reason to use it. I know I would. You already have to make hard trade-offs. But an average person? I just don't get it.

And that does not even touch the corporate world. How does a company protect against disclosure of things that are otherwise a corporate secret ( especially in today's increasingly WFH world )?

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by WalterBright on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:44PM (#24690060)
> How does a company protect against disclosure of things that are otherwise a corporate secret

My work is all open source, so no problems there :-)

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by rhinoceraptor on Monday October 05, 2020 @02:00PM (#24690245)
> I've fallen and I can't get up

The apple watch has fall detection, it will automatically call emergency services if it detects a fall and you don't cancel the SOS.

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by mywittyname on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:28PM (#24689869)
Can't you use your phone for this? I always make an effort to put my phone on the floor next to my car when I'm working under it.

Of course, either way, it's only really helpful if you're able to speak.

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by WalterBright on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:42PM (#24690039)
Dialing 911 on your phone will get the EMTs sent to your house if you say nothing.

Having the phone in your pocket works if you can move. Having the smart speaker works if you can speak. If you can do neither, hope somebody finds you soon.

Re:Police are requesting data from smart speakers by mywittyname on Monday October 05, 2020 @07:11PM (#24693074)
Oh, I meant saying, "<Okay Google>|<Hey Siri>, it's an emergency" Which should work just as well on a phone as it would with a smart speaker.

But that last point is important, I always tell people before I'm about to do something dangerous: "if you hear a noise, please come and check on me."