For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide turns against them

Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by rnantes on Saturday October 03, 2020 @02:21PM (#24673760)

I could see Apple come out with their own in-house Cloud Computing platform within the next 2 years.

  - They would be vertically integrated with Apple Silicon
  
  - Apple themselves are increasingly depending on cloud services

  - Async/Await in Swift will likely land next year, making Server-Side Swift much more appealing

  - Apple is greatly increasing cloud / Kubernetes hires

  - Could share a single Apple Silicon ARM architecture from client(ios) to dev(mac) to cloud

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by amluto on Saturday October 03, 2020 @02:40PM (#24673848)

Unless something has changed radically since MacOS Server failed, Apple would either need to do massive software engineering of a sort that they are unfamiliar with or they would need to use a different OS entirely to have a credible cloud offering. Mac OS is unlikely to be able to compete with Linux or FreeBSD in the near future even if the CPU is magically better.

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by tpetry on Saturday October 03, 2020 @03:07PM (#24674000)

They could have a very bare bone macOS based server operating system specialised for running virtual machines. Dont they have their own xhyve virtualisation layer?

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by _ph_ on Saturday October 03, 2020 @08:13PM (#24675679)

Federighi mentioned during some interviews after the Big Sur presentation, that macOS is a great hypervisor for vitualisation, when asked about Linux on AS Macs. Running Linux in the cloud would equally easy.

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by ravi-delia on Saturday October 03, 2020 @05:20PM (#24674749)

A lot of the prelim work is probably already being done with their docker optimizations.

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by snazz on Saturday October 03, 2020 @03:09PM (#24674012)

Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java on commodity Linux servers. I don’t think they are looking to have macOS compete with Linux.

Most of the special sauce from GCP and AWS is the integrated software services anyway.

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by algo_trader on Saturday October 03, 2020 @04:24PM (#24674434)

> Apple’s in-house cloud stuff is mostly Java

Can u give some more details? I am not really familiar with Apple eco-system

But wouldn't most of it (storage, web, streaming) be based on commodity C/C++ projects ?

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Re:For years, Intel sat on its CPU monopoly and now the tide... by rnantes on Saturday October 03, 2020 @03:39PM (#24674187)

It wouldn’t have to be exclusively macOS. You could likely choose your OS or it could be some kind of containerization.

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