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Re:Pixel 5 by maaarghk on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @03:48PM (#24642962)
I'm honestly not sure I understand that you're complaining there are no new features whilst saying they need to go back to simple + good + affordable. It's pretty affordable for the CPU, RAM, storage etc. I buy Pixel phones specifically because they don't come with any """useful""" shit. Because useful typically means 500MB of RAM POS bloatware bundled in with the vendor's ROM and buggy home screen replacement.
Re:Pixel 5 by bluetonium on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @04:17PM (#24643311)
It seems straightforward to me:

* Google has not been able to put together the new features that would justify this flagship cost

* Because they cannot, they should instead focus on their strengths which are simplicity, all around quality, and affordability (e.g. the $349 4a)

Re:Pixel 5 by TheCapn on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @04:59PM (#24643759)
Thanks for taking my word soup and putting into a way more concise comment.

I loved Nexus (and the Pixel 1) because I'm getting them straight from Google without contract to my wireless provider and without their additional bloat software. I like getting updates direct from the source in a timely manner and I figure they want their brand on quality product.

At this point it feels like they're using their brand to justify overcharging on something which is hardly better than a lot of the market competition. Its a fine proposition if they're the clear winner in all things Android but they really aren't anymore, why keep pretending and just go back to that niche of: Quality, Simple, Affordable?

Re:Pixel 5 by skybrian on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @05:53PM (#24644429)
But don't they have that covered? The 4a looks pretty good.

I'm not particularly concerned about the Pixel 5's price since I assume there will be a 5a next year. People who care about 5G might buy it, but you don't have to.

Re:Pixel 5 by jartelt on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @05:07PM (#24643852)
This isn't a flagship cost. It is $700 for the Pixel 5 vs. $1,000+ for an iPhone.
Re:Pixel 5 by fataliss on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @07:15PM (#24645218)
The fairly equivalent iPhone 11 is $799. That does look like flagship cost ballpark to me
Re:Pixel 5 by jonny_eh on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @08:01PM (#24645620)
But the iPhone 11 isn't flagship, it's mid-tier.
Re:Pixel 5 by cmroanirgo on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @04:49PM (#24643660)
Apparently it's also without a headphone port, which is a deal breaker for me.
Re:Pixel 5 by davidandgoliath on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @06:30PM (#24644790)
While I agree, you should definitely grab yourself a set of Jabra 65-85t bluetooth headphones and transition to the future :)