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Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by hnick on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @07:45PM (#24634385)
We got new toilets at home last year. Without fail, I have to full flush at least twice for solids. They simply aren't strong enough to do the job in one go like the old ones were. Such a waste of water.
Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by bluGill on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @08:40PM (#24634700)
Quality matters. Cheap toilets don't do the job, but I spent a little extra for the best flush model and it flushes better than our old toilets.
Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by mjevans on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @08:29PM (#24634636)
That's exactly what I've said and done for years. I now even double-flush old toilets out of habit.

The older style toilets I remember as a kid just worked. One flush would properly and fully clear out anything that didn't clog the darned thing.

The new toilets barely flush properly with two flushes, and I still wonder how much is left behind in the backwash.

Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by constantine42 on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @09:58PM (#24635055)
I had the opposite experience. Old huge tank toilets got clogged and the new high efficiency ones don't.
Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by colanderman on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @11:54PM (#24635554)
Exact opposite experience for me. The traditional toilets in my childhood home (mid-90s) were (still are) slow, took several flushes for solids, and clogged constantly. The modern low-flow toilet in my current home flushes quickly, never needs more than one flush and never clogs.

Anecdata is anecdata. It's most likely that some toilets are just bad and some are good, regardless of flow amount.

Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by bluGill on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @05:49AM (#24637024)
Water saving toilets came out (or just were mandated) in the 90s and quickly earned a bad reputation. Over time manufacturers have learned to make good toilets that use less water. Note that water savings in the 90s was a major savings over the toilets of before then, but is more than twice as much water as toilets today, even though good toilets today work better than the best of the 90s.
Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by LargoLasskhyfv on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @10:33PM (#24646678)
The modern ones are slightly asymmetrical, and give the water a spiral/swirl. Probably less bend internally also. And maybe teflon-like "anti-stick" coating.
Re:Dual-flush toilets 'wasting more water than they save' by hnick on Wednesday September 30, 2020 @03:06AM (#24636351)
Yeah I think we picked poorly (the plumber recommended this one). Maybe there's a valve we can tweak a bit somewhere, I should look into it.