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Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by atacrawl on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @01:36PM (#2463377)
With an unemployment rate of just 4% among tech professionals, and shortages in specific fields, flexibility shouldn't be a last resort.

I would have guessed that tech unemployment would be lower than the national average, but 4% is really low.

Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by il on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @02:01PM (#2463494)
The unemployment rate for college graduates as a whole is under 5%. White collar workers are not the ones feeling the brunt of the recession.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by braddunbar on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @02:08PM (#2463531)
Wow. That's a statistic that doesn't get reported nearly enough. It puts an entirely different spin on the unemployment rate.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by hugh3 on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @05:45PM (#2464366)
It could probably afford to be aired in the "is college a waste of time and money?" threads which crop up here every day too.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by il on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @07:01PM (#2464580)
I doubt it, the correlation does not imply causation. My hunch is that the people graduating from college are the kind of people that would find it easier to find a job anyway.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by InnocentB on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @09:26PM (#2464881)
There was actually an interesting study about this which got mentioned recently on the Freakonomics podcast (you can see a transcription of the segment at http://freakonomicsradio.com/does-college-still-matter-and-o..., the original study is at http://faculty.arts.ubc.ca/tlemieux/papers/unintended.pdf).

Basically, it uses men who were eligible for the Vietnam draft (who enrolled in college in greater numbers than they otherwise would have, to avoid military service) to demonstrate that success from college graduates is more than a "these people are the ones who were already going to succeed" thing.

Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by il on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @10:18PM (#2465007)
Thanks for the link, that is interesting. Of course, there were no startups willing to eschew traditional hiring practices back then.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by keithba on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @02:23PM (#2463607)
Keep in mind that there's a natural unemployment rate in any economy. The natural unemployment rate is typically made up of two components: people in-between jobs and people with out-dated skills.

In programming, we'll always have (in any month) some % of workers moving from one job to another (either because they quit, the company they worked for went out of business, or they were laid off - because the company performed badly or their own poor or poorly perceived performance.)

And, in programming, there will always be some set of people who find themselves out of job because the company they were working for no longer needs their Delphi or COBOL or other outdated skill (not to say there are not jobs for those Delphi or COBOL programmers, but there are less and less of them, on average.) Those programmers have to get re-trained, etc.

These two groups make up that 4% - which is around the natural unemployment rate for the economy as a whole on average over the last 70 years (it's around 4-5).

If the unemployment rate was above this (basically at the national avg of close to 9) for programmers, then the difference would be cyclical - missing jobs based on the recession. Because it is so low, I;m wondering if it's we can conclude that programming (in today's economy, at least) is recession-proof.

Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by spaceman6 on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @02:16AM (#2465478)
The natural rate of unemployment is 6%.

Inflation is 3-4%.

Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by keithba on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @10:32AM (#2466728)
I stand corrected - my memory was saying something between 4 and 5, but looking it up: the post-WWII avg is 5.7.
Re:Want to attract top tech talent? Offer telecommuting by dasil003 on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @01:53PM (#2463459)
Especially considering how "lazy" programmers are.