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Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by SifJar on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:25AM (#24613907)
Facebook allows anyone to purchase targeted messaging, but it's an American run company which likely makes the difference - there is likely a perception (real or imagined) that FB will be willing & able to combat "enemy" messaging.

In regards to the value of 60 second funny videos to share messaging, part of the strength here may be exactly because it's a platform for short, funny videos; as long as the ideas being communicated can be slipped into a funny video in a subtle way, people are hearing them without even realising it. (e.g. perhaps videos making fun of American leaders, undermining their authority etc. - certainly not hard to do with certain leaders...)

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by eru on Monday September 28, 2020 @03:36AM (#24613998)
Sounds like your typical argument for a free press would apply here just as well?

A free press also includes a free press for people you disagree with.

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by username90 on Monday September 28, 2020 @08:08AM (#24615720)
China controlling your communication isn't free. Free press includes freedom from pressure from other governments.
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by eru on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @05:04AM (#24625458)
Well, free press also means that you shouldn't be forced to consume media you don't like.

But media you don't like being produced at all is perfectly compatible with a free press, including dislike because of influences and pressures you disapprove of. (In some sense, it would be extremely surprising if you liked all the media being produced.)

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by hyperdimension on Monday September 28, 2020 @04:43AM (#24614424)
That reminds me of 'Yvan Eht Nioj,' from the Simpsons. It doesn't even have to be all that subtle!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQQK8r7mI4

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by sanp on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:53AM (#24615273)
Then, shouldn't videos on Facebook be banned as well?
Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by SifJar on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:37AM (#24617054)
Why just videos? Images and text posts could be used in the same way, to disguise messaging/propaganda as a joke etc.

FWIW I don't think Facebook is likely any better in this area than TikTok, or indeed any social network or platform based around user generated content. It's likely always possible to create popular content that subconsciously influences people's thinking.

One thing that might separate Facebook from TikTok (for some people, not necessarily myself) is the question of "do I trust who is serving this content?" - in these days of algorithmically generated feeds, these companies can likely get away with more in terms of inserting specifically targeted content etc. without it looking suspicious, and have people assume it's showing because it's organically popular.

Re:Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads fro... by rsha256 on Monday September 28, 2020 @04:05AM (#24614180)
exactly people don't realize the subtle implications from watching tiktoks — they do impact you and your thoughts and in any case China censors so much