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Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by rootusrootus on Saturday September 26, 2020 @10:34PM (#24603751)
> what’s best for society at large

The idea that simply slowing cars down is best for society at large is a big claim. It might help in some ways, but it will hurt in others.

Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by noobermin on Sunday September 27, 2020 @06:03AM (#24605536)
It doesn't help society for everyone to travel at 90mph. Faster speeds are deadlier full stop, denial of this sort of thing is as asinine as climate denial or creationism, it's an already established fact accepted by anyone who studies traffic statistics.
Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by rwmj on Sunday September 27, 2020 @08:04AM (#24605996)
Unfortunately the relationship between speed and energy is unintuitive (square rather than linear). Increasing speed from 60mph to 70mph doesn't sound like much but it increases energy by over a third.

In an unachievable ideal world instead of a speedometer and speed limits we would have an "energy meter" and energy limits, which would also take into account the mass of your car.

Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by pclmulqdq on Sunday September 27, 2020 @08:09AM (#24606036)
Higher speeds mean less time wasted in cars, so presumably more time to work
Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by mint2 on Sunday September 27, 2020 @04:55PM (#24610064)
Not that simple. Higher speeds mean commutes over longer distance are feasible.

People simply move further out for cheaper bigger houses and drive further.

Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by rootusrootus on Sunday September 27, 2020 @04:09PM (#24609778)
You are only considering safety and discounting everything else. The capacity of the road network is absolutely related to speed. Slowing down transportation across the board amounts to slowing the economy, which has it's own health impacts. It's not obvious what the ideal balance is. For certain, 1 fatality about every 100 million miles driven is pretty low, especially compared to the sheer amount of utility we get from all of these cars.
Re:Tesla’s Nemesis in China Is a Tiny $5k Electric Car from GM by mint2 on Sunday September 27, 2020 @04:54PM (#24610061)
You’re not considering glaring effects too. Wind resistance increases with the square of speed. Going 85 instead of 70 or even 75 is a significant change in fuel economy.

Is climate change not a thing?