I hear what you're saying, but I don't actually think speed limits solve the problem. There are parts of the downtown core in my city that have 30kph speed limits, but cars regularly drive 60kph anyway. The only effective way to lower the speed of drivers in shared spaces would be electronic speed limiting, or (perhaps simultaneously) a transition to low speed vehicles.

This is actually not true, the speeding cars are at least equally a street design failure.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/1/8/new-20-mph-stre...

Yeah that "safer street" is still going to get hit at 50 miles an hour by a lot of people.

Instead of redesigning ALL of our streets to trick drivers to slow down, we could just IDK, slow the cars down? Seems simpler to me tbh.

And now you either have to convince everyone to change their cars or their engines in their cars. These things will not go over well with those in poverty.

Automated speed cameras that issue fines/penalty points based on your number plate? Those are a thing in many countries.

Narrowing the lines also helps.

...so lets do that? Your toy drone from Amazon can't fly near an airport, why would your 50k car accelerate past the limit in a city.

My 50K car sometimes decides while driving down the freeway that it is in fact on the street next to the freeway, and should be going 25mph. Maybe we should wait a little bit on trying to use bleeding edge technology to force cars to drive a certain way.

It's not hard to make these systems fail in a safe way.

There is nothing bleeding edge about GPS geo-fences and limiters.

There certainly is if you're talking about knowing the difference between lanes, or between an elevated section or the surface street below, or any number of other things that affect the speed designation of the roadway.

It’s untrue that highways are “just as safe at 150”. There are a couple studies looking at the results of various states upping the speed limit on highways.

The conclusion is the intuitive one: more accidents and more likelihood of fatalities.

Is that a car problem or people problem tho? Compare those statistics to Germany Autobahns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_Germany#Accide...

Maybe joke driver licenses, no vehicle inspections and joke technical requirements are to blame? You can get a license after self declaring doing the "course" with your dad and taking 10 minute round around School parking lot, and them go ahead and legally register LS engine strapped to a shopping cart. Mah freeeedums etc.

> LS engine

For the people that aren't car people, the "LS" engine is Chevy's V8 that goes into a Corvette.

Maybe in your state it's that easy. Not in this one.

Are there state border crossings doing additional inspections I am unaware of?

Just to make a more concrete example, washing out salvage title in Oklahoma comes down to showing up at the DMV and getting a stamp.

>Change of classification. Vehicles over 10 model years old may go in to, or come out of, salvage at any time. _No inspection is required to bring such vehicles out of salvage_.

>Out-of-state salvage titles. Vehicles over 10 model years old entering Oklahoma with an out-of-state salvage title may receive either a salvage title or standard (green) title with a salvage date listed.

For comparison in Germany you can lose registration title for mounting non TÜV certified spoiler/bumper/hood.

I was unclear. In my head I was specifically asking about: but it

> You can get a license after self declaring doing the "course" with your dad and taking 10 minute round around School parking lot

I don't think it's that easy anywhere.

It’s not far off. My driving test in San Francisco was a couple of manoeuvres in the parking lot and a drive around the block.

New York has a much more difficult road test, but nothing to the level of a British one. Coming from NY, I always thought it was ridiculous that you could be licensed without showing that you can drive in traffic. But it’s not like New Yorkers have a reputation for good driving, so it’s not a big part of the solution.

Can you describe drivers license procedure in your state?

Is there a state licensed drivers ed training course required? How long is it (hours) and what is the division between theory

    traffic law
    best practices
    basic physics
    basic car knowledge

and practice

    basic vehicle roadworthy check - fluids, lights
    pre drive preparation - setting up mirrors/seat/headrest, fastening seatbelts
    parking lot maneuvers - parallel parking, reversing, stopping and starting on a slope
    city driving

and the same for the final test?