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Re:PG and Jessica by luckylion on Friday September 25, 2020 @05:12PM (#24594164)
Good point about not knowing in general. I believe I know my friends well enough (and long enough) to be certain that they aren't constructing elaborate webs of lies to fool me, so their rising wealth is likely real - as I said, it's hard not to put money aside when you live a middle class live on a higher income. None of those I was talking about own property though, while many of those with children do.

I wouldn't put a house into the category I understood the parent comment to talk about: it's not consumption, it's an investment. Still, you're right that it's something you're committed to and that would make it hard to "just walk away" from a job.

Savers get punished, but so do those that buy insurance, until the day they need it, I suppose.

Re:PG and Jessica by lotsofpulp on Friday September 25, 2020 @08:10PM (#24595331)
How is the biggest purchase of someone’s life not consumption? It’s can be both, although, I would argue the investment aspect of a house is minor and irrelevant since you always need somewhere to live.

The mortgage debt has to be serviced, and your kids have to go to the schools in the richest areas (aka best schools). Hence once you have kids, most are innately pushed to stretch themselves so their children have access to the best possible future.

Re:PG and Jessica by ZephyrBlu on Friday September 25, 2020 @08:37PM (#24595445)
> I wouldn't put a house into the category I understood the parent comment to talk about: it's not consumption, it's an investment

A house is a terrible investment. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with them.

The only reason I can think of is that there's something very human about your house being yours.

Re:PG and Jessica by cpach on Saturday September 26, 2020 @01:15AM (#24596618)
In some markets, finding an appropriate rental at a good price is nearly impossible. So instead of renting, people get a mortgage. Which can be a very reasonable decision as long as the mortgage isn’t a crazily high multiple of your yearly income.
Re:PG and Jessica by mattmanser on Saturday September 26, 2020 @06:38AM (#24597758)
Here in the UK, any one who said this any time in the last 20 years now looks a complete fool.

Including me. I said this 20 years ago, I said this 15 years ago. But house prices just went up and up and up.

Houses you could buy for 20k are now worth 160-200.