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Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by mhh__ on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:46AM (#24577633)
Modelling tyres on (even solid surfaces) is a surprisingly tricky affair, highly recommend reading into it if you like engineering and have no friends like me
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by maligree on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:55AM (#24577695)
Modeling vehicle dynamics as a whole is a great subject, because there are so many parts where you have to explicitly decide on how much you wish to simulate. Brakes, tires, suspension, vibration transfer... On one hand you can have a simulated vehicle in 2 hours of coding, and on the other you can spend two months on tires alone.

One related story I like is how Assetto Corsa Competizione devs bumped into "weird" behavior emerging from their simulations which seemed like a bug - but then confronted with the actual manufacturers and found out that it happens in real life as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxIZ-9Awj4

Highly recommended, video is titled "A traction control bug that was a realistic feature".

EDIT: And this is before you get to aerodynamics, which is a whole different can of worms. With todays GT3 cars, how you simulate the front splitter and rear diffuser can make or break the accuracy of the simulation. It's fantastic stuff. Wish I worked on this day-to-day. On the other hand I have trouble putting it down and going to bed when doing it as a hobby, so...

Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by js2 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:52AM (#24578594)
This was posted on the Cherokee XJ reddit recently showing the difference suspension design and tuning can make:

https://gfycat.com/wavydefensivedrake

https://old.reddit.com/r/CherokeeXJ/comments/il5uht/hey_shou...

Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by solarhoma on Thursday September 24, 2020 @10:28AM (#24578900)
This is really showing the difference between 5,000 in suspension upgrades and over 250,000 in suspension components.
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by throwaway0a5e on Thursday September 24, 2020 @10:46AM (#24579087)
The XJ sub is where all the people who have any experience off roading go after they've been driven off all the 4x4 subs.
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by joncrane on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:04AM (#24578198)
Have you thought about trying to get a job with a race team?
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by pbnjay on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:20AM (#24578348)
I know multiple engineering folks in the industry and they constantly tell me about how much the culture sucks. Very cool problems, but it's very cutthroat as you would expect.

Source: live near many teams just outside of Charlotte

Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by FlyMoreRockets on Thursday September 24, 2020 @11:01AM (#24579247)
This sounds like an opportunity to work with a lower tier race team to build reputation. Cool thing about racing, to the limit of the rules, the sport as a whole is receptive to the advance of technology if it confers a competitive advantage.
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by maligree on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:25AM (#24578377)
Boy, have I!

Acting on it, though... :-)

Life seems balanced now, I get to scratch my itches, not unhappy at my current job, and I don't feel like I'm saying "no" and making excuses. A tiny step here, a tiny step there, worst case it turns out to be a pleasant stroll.

Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by vsareto on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:13AM (#24578285)
Huh, weird, the car starts moving backwards at ~2:05 very slowly without the wheels moving
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by cevans01 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @09:33AM (#24578444)
Very interesting video of Brian Beckman talking through some of the differences between airplane simulators and racing (car) simulators and why tires are harder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GQCZgCNw8

Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by 082349872349872 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:55AM (#24577694)
Do you model vertical solid surfaces? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ7kjr8C9w
Re:How to Drive on Sand Without Getting Stuck (2017) by mhh__ on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:57AM (#24577709)
Where there's a slip (ratio) there's a way