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Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:16AM (#24563957)
How can you even spend around 2.5 million A YEAR (okay, before taxes, whatever) if you're not BURNING the cash?

I don't get it.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by JeremyNT on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:18AM (#24566095)
The point isn't to spend it, the point is to make so much money that investments self replicate. At that point, they can stop worrying about money forever and just live off the interest.

Then, you have trust funds for your children so that none of them ever have to work. And when you die, your children will inherit the fortune, so they can do the same for their children, ad infinitum. And if they want a "job" you can start a nonprofit that they can run, so they can be known as successful administrators while you are recognized as a selfless philanthropist who gave away so much money.

I guess it would be hard on their families because they would move off the fast track of multi-generational absolute financial security.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by TrackerFF on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:00PM (#24570623)
It's called lifestyle creep.

You go from a $1 million dollar home, to a $10 million dollar home.

Instead of one $50k car, you now own 2-3 $150k cars.

Tens of thousands of dollars will go towards your kids education, every single year.

You hire people to do work for you (tutors, nannies, maids, whatever), these cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Maybe you buy some vacation property - that's more money to spend.

And, in the end, you're not some kind of high-rolling baller that jet sets around the world in a private jet or yacht, spending fortunes on vanity.

You're really "just" living the very upper-middle class life.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by scoutt on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:25AM (#24564023)
Let's says it's the half after taxes: 1.25M. Spending 3424 a day for 365 days should get you there. You have to realize it's our fault to not understand these poor people.
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:33AM (#24564094)
Breaking it down on daily expenses really helps me understand how bad their situation is. Thanks for that!

(I don't even make that much in a month (after taxes)).

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by saiya-jin on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @04:29AM (#24564477)
You take loan for a mansion that can suck such an income dry. Or two, or 5. Add some luxury lifestyle (cars, clothing, vacations, gadgets, expensive restaurants) and you are losing money.

That excludes purely burning cash ie on drugs/alcohol, hookers or living in super-high rental place.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @04:55AM (#24564658)
How do you live in two or 5 mansions at the same time? Questions over questions... But yeah, I don't make enough money to understand those problems.
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by thomasahle on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @04:20AM (#24564405)
> Let's says it's the half after taxes

If you make that much money, you're not paying more than 25% taxes. Or you are not using the right lawyers.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:08AM (#24566002)
Is there any easy way to use those tax evasion schemes as a private preson with a lower income, too?
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by thomasahle on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @05:20PM (#24572192)
I wasn't even talking about tax evasion. Just that rich people can often reorganize their income to be capital gains, for which the tax is just 15%.

I don't think this is controversial. Warren Buffett talked about how he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary. There is also the famous curve of tax vs income group: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/06/opinion/incom...

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by scoutt on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:55AM (#24566420)
Tax evasion is illegal. What these people do is not (but maybe morally questionable?). Please don't go to an accountant asking to help you in "tax evasion schemes" :)
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @10:04AM (#24567179)
Seems like nobody really cares about tax evasion, though. But maybe only if you're big enough... ;-)

I also think I still have some legal headroom for optimizing my tax return forms. Maybe I'll have to try an accountant next year.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by lucb1e on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:21AM (#24566116)
No tax lawyer but the principle this works on, as I understand it, is having a lot of deductible costs to lower your taxable salary. It works for anyone, just the degree to which you have to invent expenses differs.
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by martin_a on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:48AM (#24566344)
I'll read more into that. Should be able to find some things.
Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by lucb1e on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @04:57PM (#24571943)
There's lots of info about this online but it really depends on your country. For me, things like my commute to work, expenses for my home office (even though I worked in an actual office until corona), and other things can be deducted. The most ironic category is expenses necessary to file taxes.

Most countries also seem to have savings plans where you put money away until retirement and pay taxes only when you're allowed to take it out, after retirement age (after retirement, you have a lower income, so pay a lower tax rate). Of course, you still pay those taxes (wouldn't be a certainty of life, now, would it?), but they're lower.

Re:Firefox usage is down despite Mozilla's top exec pay goin... by comeonseriously on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @09:12AM (#24566598)
You don't spend $60 to fix a faucet, you spend $100K to redo the bathroom.