Re:Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
by SamReidHughes on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @09:08PM
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> You know why? Because the owners are white.
Actually it’s because being black isn’t an advantage in coaching the way it is on the field. White guys tend to suck at a lot of positions, but they’re perfectly capable of coaching. So you have a reasonable proportion of black coaches.
Re:Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
by gandutraveler on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @06:07AM
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Isn't it racist when lower cast employee hires another lower cast employee. Arent we trying to stop that very same thing with AA?
Re:Over 90% of Indian techies in the US are upper-caste Indians
by MisterBastahrd on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:07AM
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Not remotely, no. The entire purpose of AA is to try to bring normalization to a system that is heavily and unfairly biased. AA has an understanding of the network effect and peoples' bias built in. Lower caste people favoring lower caste associates is a feature, not a bug. You want them to hire more people like them to help bring the group up. This doesn't always work, of course, but that's not the point. You want to increase the probability that it will happen
No high achievers are truly worried about being in a system with AA with regards to their personal employment and advancement. They're going to succeed regardless. The high caste people who are waiting for their (or are waiting for their kids') handout simply because they had good grades as a child are the ones who are the complainers.
It's not perfect, but it's not resource intensive and it's vastly better than the alternative.
Affirmative action is not "always bad." There are multiple purposes of affirmative action, some of which have NOTHING to do with the individual student.
About 60% of NFL alumni in the US are of African-American origin, and that number climbs every year. Most coaches in the NFL are either former players or coaches at some other level of football. The VAAAAST majority of coaches at the NFL level at ALL levels are white. Of the 32 head coaching positions in the league, only 3 are held by black coaches, and black coaches are more likely to get fired quicker than their white counterparts.
You know why? Because the owners are white. People hire who they relate to, and a white guy is going to relate to another white guy more than they will to most black guys. It's simple.
Same thing applies to affirmative action. A lower caste person who gets a chance and succeeds is more likely to hire lower caste employees. So even though those lower caste employees may not have been direct beneficiaries of affirmative action, they can still benefit from the network effect.
There is no reason to identify as "upper caste" unless one is interested in maintaining that hierarchy.