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Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by asciident on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @04:31PM (#24559531)
I would be careful about following this line of thinking too much. Like a few politicians are corrupt, they're all corrupt. It's no longer useful to vote. Or some Hacker News commenters made up stuff on the spot. So all Hacker News comments are garbage. It dismisses the vast majority of people who are doing the right thing.
Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by suprfsat on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @04:33PM (#24559555)
>all Hacker News comments are garbage

this isn't a controversial opinion

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by wegs on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @04:38PM (#24559605)
The vast majority of people are doing the right thing.

The vast majority of people in highly-competitive positions are not doing the right thing.

* A statement like "all politicians are corrupt" is to a first order accurate. You can't get elected without money, and you can't get money without doing donor bidding.

* A statement like "all executives are psychopaths" is not accurate, but becomes pretty close to accurate as you look at organizations with more than 1000-people who are no longer led by founders. You don't make it to the top of the corporate ladder without outcompeting people fighting dirty. People who are clean don't make it to the top.

* Not all academics fabricate data, but a growing number of academics at elite schools do. MIT has 1000 applicants for each faculty slot at CSAIL. You don't make it through that level of competition without cheating at least a little bit, and that makes it into the culture.

* Not all universities are corrupt, but by similar logic, most universities with massive endowments are. Dirty money goes to institutions willing to accept it.

Same thing goes across the board. Most religious leaders are deeply ethical people. Televangelists tend to be corrupt. Most lawyers who make partner tend to be a little bit unethical. Etc.

Anytime you get high enough on the ladders, bad behavior goes up.

Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by samatman on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @05:54PM (#24560409)
I wouldn't have expected a detailed elucidation of the maxim "power corrupts" to be so unpopular, but, here we are.
Re:UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors t... by wegs on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @08:12PM (#24561522)
It's been analyzed in much greater depth. Pfeffer's "Power" and de Mesquita's "Dictators Handbook" are treatments from a psychological and game-theoretic point of view, respectively. Both are well-researched scholarly tracts from top professors in the field. Pfeffer is controversial, while de Mesquita is pretty accepted organizational psychology.

Where we run into problems is that most people from any demographic are basically good, and people extrapolate from that. But power isn't a demographic; there's a selection process.

I didn't think what I posted was overly controversial, but as of now, it's a -3, with no one posting why they disagree. The only time that's happened before was the (now many times) I hit a nerve with the Google astroturf crowd. And I don't even dislike Google. But them's the taboos.