A Picture of Java in 2020

Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by franga2000 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @12:36PM (#24556600)

I never did understand all the Eclipse hate, especially when compared to IntelliJ. I use both regularly and the only thing Eclipse is missing for me is a proper searchable command pallete. Code navigation, refactoring, debugging and version control all work great, it's much faster and resource-friendly than IntelliJ and many things are a lot more straight forward (like the lack of IntelliJ's confusing changesets and non-native file pickers).

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by ben7799 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:02PM (#24557801)

This depends on your use case.

I work on an enterprise project with 100+ gradle projects and a pile of targets for docker containers, kubernetes deployments, DB schemas, Redis stuff, etc..

Eclipse is incredibly slow in this use case compared to IntelliJ and would frequently gobble 10GB of Ram. I switched from Eclipse to IntelliJ earlier this year after years on this project and IntelliJ is amazingly better.

But if you're using some different build system and a different type of project configuration maybe it's the other way around..

I think the thing with these

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by icedchai on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @02:05PM (#24557857)

The last project I used Eclipse on consisted of like 50 different maven modules. Plus we were also using a mix of Java and Scala code. The Scala plugin we were using seemed to make everything run very, very slowly. At times, it couldn't even keep up with my typing.

This was back in 2011 though. Obviously things have changed.

The difference between Eclipse and IntelliJ was like night-and-day, however, in terms of performance.

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by tmd83 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:00AM (#24575702)

I used Eclipse a long time ago and it had horrible performance. But IntelliJ quality had been really bad in recent years. Minor updates causing major performance regression, taking massive CPU when nothing is being worked on. It was way more stable product in earlier versions.

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by icedchai on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @12:56PM (#24556907)

Perhaps Eclipse has improved. The last time I personally used it for a project was back in 2011. It was slow, laggy, and I found the UI to be less friendly than IntelliJ. Obviously some of that is personal preference.

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by sh87 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @11:57AM (#24599730)

Neither did I. I was introduced to Eclipse before I got my first job and today, 9 years later it still gets the job done. I briefly use IntelliJ IDEA CE only for one static analysis plugin that works better in IDEA, most code editing is in Eclipse.

I don't love eclipse, not a person to get too attached to an IDE, but it is an incredible piece of open source software. It works.

Also too much effort in rewiring keyboard shortcuts that have made their way to my muscle memory. So eclipse it is.

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by drkstr on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @03:59AM (#24564266)

CTRL+3 to bring up the command pallette. Cheers!

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by franga2000 on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @05:21AM (#24564828)

Thanks!! I opened it once by accident and haven't managed to find it again (it's not called "command pallete" so I couldn't find anything in the docs). I suck at remembering keyboard shortcuts, so this is going to be a significant productivity boost!

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Re:A Picture of Java in 2020 by drkstr on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @09:52PM (#24574520)

Haha, yup no problem. I saw someone do it once in a youtube video and was like WTH was even that!!?

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