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Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by ehnto on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @03:12AM (#24551786)
Drink driving is banned, smoking is banned in many situations and only thanks to tobacco lobbies and tax income is it not entirely banned. Having sex doesn't affect passers by, just the active participants. Junk food you choose to eat yourself, you don't hurt others with it. It can cost taxpayer dollars in medical funding though, if you want to take that angle. There are hundreds of laws to stop people from making choices that hurt others, so even if your examples weren't so flimsy they would still be moot.

This is a once in a lifetime pandemic, it will pass, take it on the chin and accept that you might have to do something to help others. You will get your choice back soon enough. The choice to be a carrier during a pandemic affects everyone. Why is it individual liberty to choose to spread disease but public will when people die from it?

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by just-juan-post on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @03:24AM (#24551851)
> Drink driving is banned

Yet it still happens and claims innocent victims.

> smoking is banned in many situations

Yet it still happens and claims innocent victims.

> Having sex doesn't affect passers by, just the active participants

By making protection mandatory we keep people safe and healthy.

> Junk food you choose to eat yourself

As stated earlier it has been repeatedly shown that obesity is a social disease.

I haven't even brought up second order effects.

How much police and health care costs would we need by banning alcohol? Can you think of other second order effects?

> This is a once in a lifetime pandemic

This is a once in a lifetime panicdemic.

Is it a pandemic if governments and organizations are begging people to get tested?

Is it a pandemic when less than 1% of populations are positive let alone in a hospital or morgue?

This isn't a pandemic. It's a panicdemic.

Please stop keeping us safe. I appreciate your effort but let me choose.

This is about choice.

Re:Almost 90 percent of NYC bars and restaurants couldn’t pa... by TomSwirly on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @05:28AM (#24552560)
> > Drink driving is banned > Yet it still happens and claims innocent victims. [...] This is about choice.

So there should be no drunk driving laws "because choice"?

Your argument really does seem to be, "Laws are worthless, because people break them", because you repeat it several times.

> This isn't a pandemic. It's a panicdemic.

I would be ashamed if I had written what you had written.

Where are your rational arguments? Where are your links to peer reviewed papers? Where is the moral, rational or intellectual integrity here?