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Re:My least favorite Rust type by the_hoser on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:32PM (#24547471)
You got a link for the compiler for said programming language?
Re:My least favorite Rust type by Twisol on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:00PM (#24547771)
Goodness, the lack of any compiler at all would disqualify a lot of cutting-edge academic research on programming languages, much less the existence of a publically-available compiler. Often all you get is a diagram full of (basically) inscrutable derivation rules.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by the_hoser on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:02PM (#24547790)
And rightfully so. In spite of all of the theory going into those languages, the one thing they're all missing is practice.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by Twisol on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:07PM (#24547842)
Yes, but now you've shifted the goalposts, because I think most people would generally consider PL researchers to have an understanding of programming language design.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by the_hoser on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:09PM (#24547868)
Well, that's fine, then. Many of them do eventually create something useful later.

Johnathan Blow is a game designer, though.

Re:My least favorite Rust type by dgellow on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:37PM (#24548168)
You can be more than one single thing. Johnathan Blow is a game designer, a game programmer, an entrepreneur, a programming language designer, etc.

At the end of the day he's someone who do write software for a living since decades, and has strong opinions and expectations. And he's using this to create the tools he wants to have.

Re:My least favorite Rust type by ratww on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:56PM (#24547736)
I'm also not a fan of closed-source compilers (or fully closed, even worse), but it's unfair to disregard his work and opinions just because it's not publicly available.

Regardless of that, this is not a discussion about compilers or compiler design/programming, but rather about PL design, which are two different areas and disciplines.

Re:My least favorite Rust type by the_hoser on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:04PM (#24547808)
I'd even take a closed-source compiler.

The problem is that, ultimately, he's effectively throwing rocks from a glass house, but he denies us the rocks to throw back.

I just can't take him seriously.

Re:My least favorite Rust type by dgellow on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:33PM (#24548130)
It's currently in private beta as far as I remember from his Twitter timeline.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by spatulon on Monday September 21, 2020 @03:58PM (#24547759)
Can you think of a less snarky way of saying that he hasn't released it publicly yet?
Re:My least favorite Rust type by the_hoser on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:00PM (#24547774)
Nope. I'm hoping one day that they do. I don't pay attention to Jai anymore, and I'm hoping someone hits me with a link.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by fsociety on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:26PM (#24548065)
They are currently closed beta testing the compiler, but it isn’t an abstract or imaginary thing.. he works with it all the time on his livestreams on Twitch.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by Scarbutt on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:14PM (#24547925)
He has a beta program for those interested in trying out the compiler.
Re:My least favorite Rust type by IshKebab on Monday September 21, 2020 @04:38PM (#24548185)
Are you implying that it doesn't exist? It clearly does.