Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by steveklabnik on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:20AM
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It used to not work, and it does acknowledge that it does work now. You missed that since you bounced, which is why it's a good idea to fully digest a thing before deciding if it's terrible or not.
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Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by estebank on Saturday September 19, 2020 @03:13PM
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Just to add some context: the code works since 1.36 for 2015 edition code when NLL was deemed fully compatible to backport it to older code[1][2], released on July of 2019[3], and since 1.31[4] with the stable introduction of the 2018 edition back in December of 2018[5].
[1]: https://godbolt.org/z/er3zT6
[2]: https://godbolt.org/z/zKPao4
[3]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/07/04/Rust-1.36.0.html#nll-f...
[4]: https://godbolt.org/z/WKczbv
[5]: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2018/12/06/Rust-1.31-and-rust-201...
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by bsagdiyev on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:46AM
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Thank you! There seems to be a fair amount of people who, when disproving a single thing in a list, seem to take that as reason to invalidate the rest of the list and reaffirm whatever their belief (bias, desire, ??) is instead.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by jjpe on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:53AM
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Like someone said above, who has time to wade through all the verbal feces before deciding that an article is worth the time?
In this day and age, you need to decide quickly, or you'll be wasting a lot of your time.
Now I don't know about you, but my time is valuable.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by bsagdiyev on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:55AM
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Someone who isn’t ignorant has time to do it. I don’t pass over reading just because I can disprove a single portion. I value my time, but also my ability to digest and understand all viewpoints regardless of my actual views on them. I suggest you try and do the same.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by jjpe on Saturday September 19, 2020 @12:10PM
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Ignorance and having time are 2 orthogonal things. Your argument is not even close to valid.
And I haven't even mentioned the ad hominem, which is an automatic disqualifier for any argument.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by bsagdiyev on Saturday September 19, 2020 @01:24PM
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You’re obviously too intelligent for me, what a zinger. This sort of mental gymnastics you play is really detrimental to long term happiness, but to each their own.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by vinceguidry on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:56AM
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I mean, there's not taking it seriously, then there's taking to social media to bash it in the comments. If you're going to do that, then at least take the time to digest it. You don't have to inflict your willful ignorance on to others.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by jjpe on Saturday September 19, 2020 @12:10PM
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I'm not doing that at all. I'm merely saying it isn't worth the time.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by jjpe on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:45AM
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Or the author should/could improve their writing style. Just a thought.
One concrete improvement would be not to moan about things that aren't even true (anymore).
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by gilmi on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:52AM
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Let's be real, life is too short to read every article on the internet before deciding if it's worth your time.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by steveklabnik on Saturday September 19, 2020 @12:02PM
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It depends on your goals, and yes, I do agree that life is too short to read everything. But if you don't have the time to fully digest what's written, you also don't have the time to trash talk it, in my humble opinion. That's what I mean by "deciding if it's terrible or not," that is, I see a personal distinction between "did not pique my interest enough to bother" and "this is actively bad." You have to actually read the whole thing to make the latter determination, IMHO.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by jjpe on Saturday September 19, 2020 @12:27PM
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Well in all fairness, I might've kept reading had it not been for that blatant factual error.
Re:Why Rust is not a mature programming language
by axaxs on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:58AM
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Absolutely. But if you make that decision, why waste more time commenting on it? I don't mean this to be negative, just food for thought.